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If you're going to get presets from the Omnia stuff, consider that most of the features of Omnia.7 presets should work in BreakawayOne.
Some of my best presets for the Omnia.9 will sound like garbage in BreakawayOne because they will end up doing the wrong things.
[quote author=MrKlorox link=topic=5838.msg20192#msg20192 date=1561644968]Deleting all the lines referring to the lower three bands is probably not going to get you where you want to be, but I'd start there, knowing almost nothing about how this thing works.[/quote]
If there's any values that aren't there, it'll just use the defaults for those settings.[quote author=MrKlorox link=topic=5838.msg20196#msg20196 date=1561766046]So I'm not as particular about how I sound as one would be when [mixing] rap vocals. But I know I have the power to make myself sound amazing if I tried. Again, ST+BAO is like a Reese's cup for your ears.[/quote]
Honestly in this case, it's down to preference for the sound quality AND for workflow/ergonomics. Some say Breakaway has much better ergonomics, nothing else considered, for the actual usage of the processing itself. But considering that the workflow is happening primarily in a DAW, Stereo Tool having a VST version actually could be a big deal to the specific workflow/ergonomics goals of someone.You could get a BreakawayOne HD core license, which is cleaner (artifacts) and not only supports 24-bit input/output, but more importantly is linear phase. That'll let you have audio coming in/out of any soundcard or virtual soundcard that you want.
That being said, as a mastering engineer of 20 years now… and being pretty involved in audio processing for as long… I'm actually not torn about using broadcast boxes for mastering at all. I would NEVER do it myself. Just like I'd never use a multiband slapped across the entire bandwidth of the recording on a mastering job. I always am going to try to get something to happen first with the least invasive and damaging method possible, which is linear phase EQ. Then I start to reach for other things.
The flip side of that coin is that my mastering can use a ton of things that I would NEVER want to use in any broadcast box, because of how potentially damaging it could be, and it's going to be … a long time before AI can even pretend it's making the same decisions that we are, creatively, when we're working on things. Especially if someone's not just trying to be a cookie cutter top 40 or metal or EDM engineer. 😉 or any other genre with so strong a pressure to conform, that there can eventually be a "box" that just spits out "that way it should sound" every time. 😉 And for that though…. is a broadcast box is working, and that's all someone is mastering, then who is anyone to argue. It's just not my experience personally.
dang, Nomad Factory need to work on their SEO… the first 30 results (on DuckDuckGo, not some search hole hell like Google) are cracks of the plugin, and home loan scams.
Looks like you need to setup one of these with Delivery Method of HTTP, Get request, to something like
http://ipaddress:8282/parameter/hd1/strm/metadata_strm=
Other than potentially the "URL Encoding" option, ever other option should be un-needed.More info here:
http://www.forumclaessonedwards.com/forum/index.php/topic,5552.0.htmlAnd yes, of course, you will need the Management Package in your BreakawayOne license.
It's an interesting dilemma.
Perhaps a feature or two could make it work how you want.
The other option, and maybe what you're doing right now already, is to just have the backup audio already there 24/7 on your backup input/s. That's generally what's being done when using BreakawayOne somewhere on the STL path. I have one station that actually has 5 different ways that audio can get to the transmitter, all handled automatically by BreakawayOne. That station is NOT going off air hehehe.
There's literally zero reason to use the fake ASIO4All if the software you're trying to use already has Kernel Streaming support. It's just adding another link in the chain to break, and also adding more latency which is the opposite of the idea of using ASIO in the first place.
Not sure how ASIO got mentioned in that setup guide at all there afterburner1, but I would just ignore that part of it. You don't need ASIO at all. 😉
As far as buffer settings in your shoutcast server, if you have control over those, you should totally turn those up. Normally it's around a 5-8 second buffer for 192-128 streams. I would turn that up to around 30 seconds worth at whatever bitrate you're using.
If you're using Icecast, unfortunately it will disconnect all of the players if the source has a hickup, even if the source reconnects before the server's output buffer under-runs.
I dealt with that for a while on the ISP I have at home.
What I would do if I were you is to get a decent router that can run pfsense, which you can use to automatically switch what connection to use for WAN (internet)… and then also get an second connection for your backup internet.
LTE for instance is starting to become a good backup connection for home and hobby users. Or even as backup (to a backup to a backup etc) for really serious commercial operations.
At least with a backup you won't be down for lengths of time ever, even if it's some weird packet loss thing, pfsense can tell and switch it very quickly.
The other thing you could do is complain more about the specific issue to your ISP, I don't know how your ISP is there (i see who it is and what country, but wont repeat it here obviously) I haven't heard much about them lately but… I do know it can be a nightmare to work through and stay the course. It took working with my ISP 9 months total, 4 months of actual people coming out to my place (with 2 weeks in between every time because of how they schedule/work) and a very high up supervisor that would normally never work on my level of problem… to figure out that my line was shorted out at the node. 😉
All of my problems aren't gone. It still gets heavily shaped during heavy traffic, which means sometimes I can't even stream a single 192 Kb/s audio stream, much less 6000 Kb/s live video. 😛 and sometimes I can stream 10 Mb/s video with no dropped frames for days, so…. it's still fun, but that's what is to be expected more often than not now, for non-business internet.
If you have a business level account with that ISP… i would be livid if they aren't resolving the issue for you in a timely manner.
[quote author=beej6 link=topic=5612.msg20099#msg20099 date=1557336097]Thank you Jesse! I am not at a point where I am messing with the speed and ranges of multibands… yet 🙂 [/quote]
Well it's only two knobs, if you're ever feeling a little adventurous. 🙂 The range, and how much the highest band is using, are relatively easy to see on the processing meters. Basically get a general idea for where most of the bands are sitting at, especially in the mid range. Then compare how much of a difference there can be with the highest frequency band. If there's more of a difference (between mids and highs) happening than normal, while the sensations of being harsh are happening at the same time, then it could possibly be fixed (in part?) by reducing the range. Worth trying the speed, as well as adjusting the "Brilliance" knob in "Enhance" page down to see if that helps over-all without muffling the sound "too much".It really does just take a little playing around to see how something reacts, and setting it back, trying another thing, hearing what that does, setting it back…. basically like seeing what colors you have on a pallet. Once you see what colors you have … then you can start to paint. =)
[quote author=plauri link=topic=5777.msg20100#msg20100 date=1557356296]I had a pc crash and I had to be on air.[/quote]
Ouch, well glad Keith kept you on air 🙂[quote author=plauri link=topic=5777.msg20073#msg20073 date=1557181490]
Yes, it's what happened to me a couple of years ago: my hard disk broke and I had to install everything from start. I did wrote an email (maybe Keith) and I had a new licence with the new mac address. Easy and quick 🙂
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It must have been one of the old Breakaway software then, with already 5 authorizations on the same license, or you would not have to email anyone. Once BreakawayOne is licensed to a specific computer (via the MAC address), you can do anything you want to the operating system, or hardware, as long as that network adapter with that MAC address is in the computer… you should be able to re-authorize the same license, on the same hardware.This is why it makes sense to get a cheap (under $100) fanless computer with Intel (i5 or new 4 core Atom) cpu that can be an appliance for many years to come, which you can completely firewall and/or not connect to the network at all if you can help it, and it just sits there processing audio for the next 10-20+ years 🙂
Unless something is wrong with the encoder, joint stereo should either do nothing, or it should free up more bits to be used for encoding the audio. Which means…. joint stereo either makes no difference, or it potentially is audibly BETTER than not using it.
Nothing more I can say about that. 😉
So yeah, you should probably be using joint stereo, unless you want to leave audio quality on the table, sometimes a LOT of audio quality.
[quote author=beej6 link=topic=5612.msg20044#msg20044 date=1556552384]
For any preset: If I find that a particular setting works well for music, but spoken word seems a bit harsh (a bit too much high end), what adjustments would you suggest I make to the preset?
I usually back off the Final Clip Drive, and turn down treble.
[/quote]It depends on the nature of the harshness in the speech I suppose. Especially if you're only comparing 1-2 sources of speech, and not… many, like on a for-profit station's advertising on a typical day. Backing off drive and turning down is one way. The speed of the processing can also be another way, if the harshness is more-so being caused by the processing acting too fast on the speech, which can also make speech sound less natural in a hurry (no pun intended).
Experiment with things 🙂 try a combination of things when you get the hang of how each approach moves toward your goals, and you'll know what blend of each type of change you need to get there.
For FM/AM mainly, lowering the "Brilliance" control in "Enhance" page … just lowering it a smidge… can usually get the treble to sound less stressed/pushed without sacrificing the peak loudness of the high treble.
The other thing to be careful of with speech you want to keep more natural is to not have a combination of fast multiband, with high range multiband. That can allow the multiband to increase the amount of treble a lot very quickly.
Food for thoughts 🙂
[quote author=AntonisV link=topic=5751.msg20030#msg20030 date=1556279919]Will rising the Fifo sliders, improve the jitter % ?[/quote]
An important thing to know about the "Jitter" measurement…
That is measuring the variance in FIFO buffer block timing.Since there are (by default) 4x FIFO blocks, for the total buffer, you can (in many cases) see that go above 100% and still have perfectly fine audio with zero glitches, and zero SAMPLE jitter at the input/output being caused by software/windows.
Hardware/clock jitter is a whole other subject hehe.
By the way… Whatever soundcard you have on ASIO is using a buffer length that the sample rate can't divide into with a whole number. That means that there will always be more/less samples than can fit into one buffer/block, and in order to prevent actual glitches it will have to double the effective latency *somewhere*, weather if that's internally in the soundcard, or externally in the software you're using with it (BreakawayOne in this case)… that's there.
96000 / 2304 = 41.6 …
If you can change that 2304 buffer size in the soundcard's ASIO settings/control panel so that 96kHz or whatever other sample rate are multiple/divisor of a whole number, that can decrease your latency a lot also. Especially with a buffer as large as 2304 (which is pretty huge for ASIO). For future reference, if you do anything where latency does matter. If it doesn't matter, then the more safety the better of course. I'm on the same page there my friend.
