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JesseG
Member[quote author=”wouter”]can we buy a full version of it or?[/quote]
http://www.ceaudio.com/
click on "Store" in the main top navigation.JesseG
MemberMost soundcard drivers even before 10 years ago will let you record as many times as you want, at the same time, from the same soundcard. ๐
It’s only with Kernel Streaming that it’s not supposed to be possible because of how Windows & the driver itself are is providing exclusive access to the card.
JesseG
Member[quote author=”feeling”]Maybe Jesse can upload some samples with same clips just to compare.[/quote]
Most of those audio clips they used are from Leif’s own torture test. ๐ See also: MPX ToolAs far as why Orban would upload them, to show off how much improvement they have done. Those are very hard to process for various somewhat-conventional clipper designs and completely unconventional clipping designs both.
According to what I understood from the 8600 marketing when it came out, the change as far as clipper distortion was optimizing the high-frequency protection limiter that’s before the clipper.
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There’s a few songs that don’t sound undistorted in Breakaway’s clipper at certain settings from a clean Breakaway Core output, and I even found a song that has a soloed filtered voice on a breakdown that’s SO tweaky sounding, that it actually creates distortion within the Breakaway Core itself. We found it to be caused by the final limiters actually.
But you don’t change the sound of a processor based on how 1 song sounds, or how 10 songs sound even. You can certainly use material like this to work out bugs. The trick is to balance the ideals of what you think your processing should be doing or capable of doing on any given random track, without letting any bug fixes on an extremely small minority of songs screw up what your goals are… in a way that works best for your customers.
Although hopefully the audio processing scene continues the "quality wars" right along with the rest of the broadcasting industry. At least that shift in the balance between goals and transparency. Each processor & company varies its outlook on what is an acceptable balance of goals and transparency on many different levels of sound quality, not just what someone might call audibly bad distortion in whatever the case may be – broadcast processors aren’t just used for FM more & more every day.
Every customer can hear the boxes and weight people’s opinions and try to get an idea of what they think the balances are that each company tried to have for each processor… and then hopefully enjoy using whichever one they think best matches what they are trying to do.
There will never be a "winner" in audio processing. And for that, we should all be very thankful.
JesseG
Member[quote author=”michi95″]Do they apply pre-emphasis (and de-emphasis) for this demo files ?[/quote]
and de-emphasis. correct.[quote author=”michi95″]I guess you have used ["15ยตs pre-emphasis/de-emphasis encoded MP3 files"] for your final Passive Aggressor teasing ?[/quote]
No actually, that’s only the "Core" processing. Nothing but the core’s usual limiter, and not much of that at all.September 24, 2010 at 2:36 am in reply to: Any Chance Of A NRSC Curve Button For Us Simple Folk? #11470JesseG
Member[quote author=”stationx”]I hand no idea you had something biult into the preset i hope i understand that right. It would be much better for us simpler folk to just have a button.[/quote]
at one point it was like that, it may still be, i’m not sure.JesseG
Membermore pre-emphasis is more difficult to get loud and unmuffled and clean… at the same time.
JesseG
MemberIt ideally should have none at all. The computer’s power supply is for DC current. ๐ So ideally it’s filtering out ALL non-dc signals. The mainboard has some of its own conditioning, and soundcards sometimes do too, especially anything external.
The Apogees I run are completely power & electrically isolated from the computer even via USB, and the power supply for the card itself switches 150,000 times a second, so even with a spark gap on the same ac line, my audio can be uneffected. Not the usual setup though.
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JesseG
MemberDistortion is in the eye of the beholder, as they say. Honestly, they all sounded distorted to me, but the 8600 clips were overall much less of the 2nd or 3rd level of distortion happening there, which is a great improvement for them of course. I’m hearing some grittiness to the sound of those recordings at the core of what I would also consider to be distortion, and it’s unfortunate because I’m not so sure it’s only the sample rates within the machines causing it. 64kHz isn’t a horrible sample rate, and internally it goes quite a bit higher I’m sure.
September 23, 2010 at 7:26 am in reply to: Any Chance Of A NRSC Curve Button For Us Simple Folk? #11468JesseG
MemberI agree about the pre-emphasis filtering. I actually had a version of Rustonium that had a custom curve at 10kHz low-pass and below, but I don’t know if it was removed. At one point i think it may have been but I may have not been looking at the right versions.
But yeah, a universal option should be created in the upcoming versions. Between that, and also the filtering, it should be possible to really tailor a sound that once and for all can say it’s knocking even a perfectly tuned 9100 from the dial.
I know it’s close already, but that smaller channel filtering needs to be handled correctly as well, I agree.
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fyi the largest shortwave Breakaway has been on was 1 million watts erp, highly directional. ๐ but it went off air a few years ago.
JesseG
MemberAh i thought that was fixed for all of the versions with speaker controllers that moved to the 64bit processing. that’s a bummer.
JesseG
MemberDon’t pass on an opportunity to try the aphex too, you may like it more like i do. or not. ๐
JesseG
MemberCamclone Vs Gregg IIV: Revenge of the Bassatron
JesseG
MemberThe Drawmer probably being the most transparent and esoteric…
But things just have a habit of sounding the most natural on an Aphex 622. So that’s my fav. Leif was pretty impressed with the overall sound on it on the calibrated $50,000+ rig we demoed for him just last weekend.
You can do it in software, but you’re going to introduce an audible delay before the audio processing, at least in your monitoring. ๐
JesseG
MemberI’m not sure why microsoft ever made that option default, for "known" file types. Gee what’s harder to remember… a 3 letter extension, or 5,000 different file-type icons??
Mmmm kay.
JesseG
MemberI would get a quad i7 anyways, just so there’s more cores available in case any specs or requirements change too.
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