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Sure, but that RDS doesn’t have data integration like Airomate does, such as:
And it doesn’t even send this full spec:
Or language & pin info:
So Stereo Tool’s support is not complete. As far as it’s compliance (or how well it cuts through the aliasing and side-band signal past 54kHz) I couldn’t say. I don’t have anything to test that properly, perhaps someone else here does (and might care).
As far as testing the calibration… with MPXTool you have highly superior monitoring (you can record MPX with any software, and still use the free version of MPXTool, if you can’t afford the full realtime version (but even the full version will run for 10 minutes at a time without a license)), and Breakaway Broadcast itself has a tilt compensator which Stereo Tool does not have (one of the most common problems), as well as a parametric EQ which is enough to correct for the frequency falloff on a GOOD soundcard.
And speaking of good soundcards, might I put forward an idea about Stereo Tool’s EQ and phase controls for it’s MPX output. Let’s assume that a perfect FM tuner is used (one doesn’t exist) to take that out of the equation. So if you need to use such granular correction for the EQ and phase of the soundcard sending the MPX signal… what makes you think that the monitoring input soundcard a person is using is going to be any better and actually able to monitor the signal without the same or WORSE coloring of the sound?!? Doesn’t it make sense that someone would already be running as good as possible of a soundcard to source their transmission? Than being said, then you flip the soundcards around, and you’re then adjusting the good soundcard with the worse one. Or maybe they are both the same, and either way…. you’re going to be "looking through rose-colored glasses". Know what I’m getting at?
Also I should add that… if you’re not just correcting for the frequency & phase response of the soundcard and transmitter… You’re going to end up correcting the sound of the audio processing itself. And when you do that, you’re going to LOSE peak control, and you’ll have to turn down the signal even more to be in compliance. With the method of adjustment Stereo Tool has provided there is NO WAY to know if you’re even doing that or not. This is a big problem. 😉
And if that level of correction needs to be done for the transmitter… then EQ and phase is the least of your worries, and/or you’re probably dealing with a few watts or less "transmitter".
Another thing Breakaway Broadcast offers is a range of useful test signals that most people would find difficult to create on their own.
I can tell plain as day that you’re using "phase tornado". Is that a good thing? (imho NO)
Otherwise it sounds ok.
[quote author=”luke-san”]I would like to see what kind of issues it would cause because of filtering on the audiocards[/quote]
All DA converters have filtering, weather they are in an Omnia6 or a $10 special from Newegg. Breakaway already doesn’t have a problem with MPX output, or even asymmetrical output for AM, with many "prosumer" converters. Clipping the MPX instead of L/R wouldn’t change that at all. That being said, care to explain what kind of issues you are referring to anyways? 🙂
[quote author=”sneradio”]Have a listen here.[/quote]
Very nice. 🙂 Listening on PS-AAC feed.
I tested a bunch, and I found to be the best combination for consistency without taking away too much from impact…
Clunk:1 (always)
Slam:2
Bass:2And running Clunk/Slam 1st, with Bass-EFX next, then Breakaway (of course).
I also recommend putting one of the attenuation plugins before the rotation plugins, so that you leave some headroom for when the bass expands. The 3db attenuation one is good for that. 🙂
[quote author=”celar”]Wow. WOW. Leif is that patentable? I hope so, for your benefit. Maybe something to consider.[/quote]It could be sure. From what I gather from Leif he’s not going to patent it, because it’ll just help "the other guys" figure out how it’s done. Without the patent, it’s not likely they are going to figure it out for a long time. 🙂
[quote author=”camclone”]…BUT FIRST….LET’S BE ..SOFTWARED WITH ..WINDOWS AND BIG LATECY…..[/quote]Latency has NOTHING to do with windows. Case in point, Breakaway Live using ASIO, you can get about 5ms total latency. Almost all of the latency comes from the audio processing, NOT where it’s software is running. And for the record… Omnias and Orbans are software too.
[quote author=”sgeirk”]how can that possibly be LEGAL in the USA? WOW![/quote]It’s legal. Check the modulation level, check the frequency deviation width. It should be possible to put a Stokkemasker "limiter" on it too. 🙂 It’s perfectly legal and compliant.
and although it’s preference…
I would use:
Clunk:1
Slam:2
Bass:2Clunk over 1 loses it’s magic.
Slam or Bass over 2, and you start to lose impact.And use them in that order… Clunk/Slam, BASS-EFX, Breakaway. Any other plugins, put them BEFORE those last three. 🙂
[quote author=”Tomsen77″]Look out for AudioTX this is a suitable Solution but is rather expensive 😉
In Hardware, the Barix Instreamer/ExStreamer would do the Trick[/quote]
Actually, they are essentially software. The only true "hardware" is 100% analog, or the physical system that software runs on… imho. Without the software, the Barix wouldn’t work, so it’s clearly not only hardware. Or what I would call simply "hardware". In fact there’s no reason that the Barix software couldn’t run on many different kinds of hardware… not that there isn’t already the equivalent functionality several times over on most hardware.
Anyways… I just get tired of hearing people call something "hardware" when it’s actually software and doesn’t explicitly rely on specific hardware to make it’s connection to the physical world. Like Barix. They just happen to be selling hardware that the Barix software can run on as part of the package. 8)
[quote author=”stationx”]I’m not sure if this has been thought of. But Ots has it’s own processor biult in. Has anyone looked into that?[/quote]
Yes, right in this very thread. Don’t suppose you read it? 😉
personally i just use the volume knob on my monitor controllers to do equal-loudness comparisons. it works for EVERYTHING that i need to compare. 😉
but yeah, Leif is right about it being conceptually impossible, because the input being unknown, and Breakaway being a realtime dynamics processor… you can’t know what the input or output will be, because it’s in the future.
And to "undo" any loudness changes from input to output would also be a worthless endeavor because you wouldn’t be hearing the actual would-be output of Breakaway.
I was referring to the thing related to when people asked about how to process tracks through Breakaway for use in portables, burning to cd, etc. I don’t know if I can talk about that yet, but really… how hard is it to figure out already, lol.
And to those who have figured it out, i’m not saying it’s going to be released at all until Leif says it is. But it’s something he wanted to do. 🙂 It’s just a back-burner thing for now.
And remember that only compensates for the card. If your exciter/transmitter has tilt, you’ll also need to adjust the tilt correction with those in mind (with accurate monitoring of course, like mpxtool)
[quote author=”Leif”]
quote :So does that mean that as soon as I turn on ASIO I will only be able to process the physical inputs and outputs of the soundcard? (i.e. taking microphones or line inputs, processing them, then sending them back to the soundcard)Correct. Turning ASIO on will essentially turn Breakaway Live into a low latency hardware processor, and it will have both the advantages and disadvantages of a hardware processor.
///Leif[/quote]
Yes. and re: "currently or planning on"… They have supported this for so long that I can’t even remember when they started doing it. Over 10 years ago, they have supported multiple connections via all methods, all at once, with proper sync of everything. And it’s all done in the device, so there’s no added CPU load whatsoever.
There is also the ability to route any physical input/output to any virtual input/output, including mixing. So you could have a few inputs getting mixed into breakaway, right in the soundcard.
http://www.rme-audio.de/en_support_tech … x_hardware
http://www.rme-audio.de/en_support_tech … x_software[quote author=”sgeirk”]Actually, on our main FM airchain, we’re still running analog up to our digital STL on the roof, due to a wiring constraint in our building. To protect the input of the a/d converter, we’re using a compellor running between 6-8db of g/r….set to leveling only and slow…it’s very unobtrusive. I’m pretty picky.
It works well with the setting in my O6exi.[/quote]
I agree about the 6. The 6 is NOT happy when the input gets anywhere above like -9db with some presets, especially for voice. It should not be like that.
Breakaway doesn’t have this problem at all.
