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Those are not Breakaway One. BA1, BAE, and BAL are all different products. BA1 has a 5 band multiband.
@JustifiedRush
I realize this isn’t a solution to the software like a real fix would be, but a temporary workaround might be to use the transparent/inverted mouse cursor from Windows. I also hate having text hidden behind a cursor, and since switching to the inverted one, I can read through it. Highly recommended for anybody who likes a big cursor.I would bet the new UI for BAE2 will have scalable fonts or DPI settings to make the 4K experience feel more natural.
Thanks, @mpx for alerting me to the Chameleon C6 software. It certainly doesn’t seem worth the $600 asking price for the software, but it’s also got features I wouldn’t necessarily use.
Stereo Tool and Chameleon C6 have plugins. Stereo Tool works within Breakaway One with its VST2x32 plugin. However, the Chameleon seems to be 64-bit VST2 instead. which the current BreakawayOne cannot handle.
Also, I have to toot Stereo Tool’s subharmonic synthesis horn (you mentioned Solar Plexus). True Bass is outstanding since it works by detecting existing harmonics, but I definitely want more options with my sub-bass. Looking forward to trying Solar Plexus at some point, I hope. I also own the bx_SubSynth plugin (which also doesn’t work with BA1) and that’s a fun one too. But the harmonics-detecting ones seem to be the most natural sounding.
But anyway, yeah I think BA1 could do some amazing stuff if it allowed more varieties of plugins and allowed us to put one near the end of the chain (before the clippers) rather than on the input. I mean for a declipper plugin, on the input is really mandatory. But for subharmonics, I like to place mine near the end and let the clippers wrangle the signal.
Riiight, AHK! I forget about using this for processing. I use it for other things but never figured out the cURL commands for BA1. Doesn’t this require the management package or something? Thanks for the idea though:
I would like to add a request for at least 6 customizable keyboard commands for some basic functions like the aforementioned custom preset 1-2-3, loudness up-down, and bypass toggle. I feel like requiring the user to go outside of the software for this is asking too much for general media consumers. BA1, on the other hand, is more professionally focused, so it’s not as out of the question to use AHK there.
Since I was recently reminded that BreakawayOne is built for music specifically, and remembered that BAE (which is for general PC media usage) was getting a new version, I have to drop some of my requests from that thread here.
First is multiband AGC for speech and videos. I realize this is not good for music as it will defeat much of the dynamics before reaching the compressors. However for speech (podcasts, videos, chat) it appears to be golden (depending on how it’s configured of course). But I don’t exactly make TV loudness processors like our dear Leif has. I’m sure he has more wisdom in this topic and reasoning for why things are done the way they are. How well could a multiband AGC work for a mostly speech medium?
I also realize people are going to be listening to music and that is the focus of Leif’s work. So for this aspect, instead of constantly opening the app and switching presets, perhaps a speech detector to automatically switch from one preset to another? Or, and I just thought of this, some easily available custom buttons we can set to use presets (like Video [multiband agc preset] Music [regular agc preset] and misc [unset by default]). Perhaps have them in the taskbar as a widget, or from a right-click menu if in the systray?
If not the ability to tweak presets with more detail than the original sliders, then perhaps allow us to mess with the amx files manually? Why: presets are often “too loud” and the volume doesn’t allow more headroom like Clipper drive/outmix in BA1.
Lots of sub-bass flexibility if no VST host. And if yes VST host, please let us place it before or after the processing (before the clippers maybe?).
Thanks, I’ll surely think of more. Please let me know if I said anything ridiculous or plain wrong.
@Milky Thanks so much for the detailed response. I’m not afraid to sound stupid for the sake of learning.
I apparently read some incorrect information at some point and took it in. I appreciate your asking and will refer to this if I need to clarify anything for myself or anybody else.
All I know about multiband AGCs is a few podcasts that use one (Ariane Sequel or Ariane Encore) sound unbelievable. But yeah, for music, perhaps they don’t engage it during those segments after all.
As always, Leif’s insight is invaluable. I need to learn more about AGC sidechain filtering, I suppose. I will have to mull this over more.
Heya. So I recently realized the AGC in BA1 is not necessarily multiband like the Omnia software is capable of. At least not always..? Can we get clarification on this?
I’ve been experimenting with another multiband AGC and I love how it sounds. If it’s not already capable of multiple bands, I would be interested in (and even willing to pay for) a multiband upgrade to the wideband AGC currently in the software.
If it does exist, can we get metering for each band? I realized I already asked for this last part in another comment, but I’m putting it together with this request since it doesn’t necessarily make sense on its own if the AGC is not multiband.
Ah, so if I see “KS” in a software, I can assume it’s supposed to be “WDM” if said software also has a separate “MME” setting?
Or is this a semantics thing where it’s all technically streaming through the kernel even if it’s not the “KS” API? I was under the impression WASAPI did not use KS, but my understanding of this whole audio API situation in Windows is muddy as heck.
edit: sorry to derail
MME is not Kernal Streaming, to my understanding. It is a separate … API (??). Not sure what to call these.
Which Extreamer? Having trouble with PCM.exe… is this included with BreakawayOne?
It appears flac.exe can also encode PCM data. https://xiph.org/flac/documentation_tools_flac.html
“flac -c -1 -s 12000 -b 16 -f s16le – | nc remote_ip 8000
The -c option tells FLAC to encode the audio data, the -1 option tells FLAC to use the highest quality encoder, the -s option sets the sample rate to 12000 Hz, the -b option sets the bit rate to 16 bits per sample, the -f option sets the sample format to 16-bit little-endian, and the | nc remote_ip 8000 tells FLAC to stream the encoded audio data to the remote Barix extreamer box on port 8000.”
I don’t know if this works. Again, you would do best by asking Bard or ChatGPT yourself so you can try the responses and tell it when it doesn’t work. Then post the working code here for posterity.
Oh, jeez! I had just left for vacation when this came out and I completely missed it! Can we get this pinned or the version on breakawayone.com’s download page updated to include this version?
Oh, excellent! I completely missed this thread! I’m pretty certain there are no subharmonic enhancements built into BreakawayOne, though I could be wrong. All I know is I can’t hear much of any difference when I adjust the Clunk, Slam, and Bass EFX. This is why I would like a difference/delta monitoring setting for each filter.
Having read the descriptions, I’m more interested in Leif’s multiband percussion expander in Undo, and the subharmonics synth in Solar Plexus than ever.
Oh! I missed this post a couple of months ago. It has the info you’re looking for. There is apparently documentation in the works, and this is one of the things covered.
https://ceaforum.net/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/Breakaway-Documentation.pdf
edit: the link didn’t work. let’s see if this direct link does
