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Great sleuth work, Mwyann! I passed on your previous comments, and will alert Leif to your new findings. I’m guessing that Leif sends parameters to the VAC interface, and may have to tweak those a little to optimise performance.
I am intrested in your comments on latency, where you quote a value of “30-40% latency” as acceptable. Technically, the jitter value represents discarded frames, or “retries” and it should be as low as possible in theory. The BAE wizard simply asks the installer to increase or decrease buffers based on whether “glitches” can be heard. However, if you run the “Test” option after installation, it shows the jitter value and you can fine tune the number and size of buffers to reduce the jitter value.
Now, I get it that small buffers means less latency, but, to reduce the jitter value, you may have to increase the buffer size. The trade off is that, with very small buffers, you may have so many discarded frames that it actually takes longer to process a buffer full, with retries.Out of interest, I achieve 11% jitter both in and out with buffer size which is a multiple of the sample rate.
Thankyou Mwyann for your feedback. As I pointed out, this is a BETA version, and I will ensure that Leif gets these comments so that they can be addressed.
There has been a new BETA release of BAE – version 1.42.0, which addresses a couple of minor bugs picked up by the testers. There is also a minor update to VAC 4.31 which is now correctly signed. Here’s the link to a dropbox.
- https://www.dropbox.com/sh/lkxar5d2wfcsonk/AAAhHJniGGmNffmzBSNvpXFAa?dl=0
Download ONLY version 1.42.0 and VAC 4.31. If you do not uninstall your previous version of VAC, the BAE installer will place a removal tool on your desktop, and you should run this first. The BAE installer will set up and configure VAC as well.
For those of you also running BA1, I have not received the updated version of it yet, but it appears in my testing that VAC 4.31 works well with it. However, the current production version of the BA1 installer will see VAC 4.31 as “foreign” and try to uninstall it, so you should uninstall VAC and install 4.31 independently of the BA1 installer.
There has bee a new BETA release of BAE – version 1.42.0, which addresses a couple of minor bugs picked up by the testers. There is also a minor update to VAC 4.31 which is now correctly signed. Here’s the link to a dropbox.
- https://www.dropbox.com/sh/lkxar5d2wfcsonk/AAAhHJniGGmNffmzBSNvpXFAa?dl=0
Download ONLY version 1.42.0 and VAC 4.31. If you do not uninstall your previous version of VAC, the BAE installer will place a removal tool on your desktop, and you should run this first. The BAE installer will set up and configure VAC as well.
FOr those of you also running BA1, I have not received the updated version of it yet, but is appears in my testing that VAC 4.31 works well with it. However, the BA1 installer will see VAC 4.31 as “foreign” and try to uninstall it, so you should uninstall VAC and install 4.31 independent of the BA1 insstaller.
Am I missing something here? The HTTP server port is :8282 and it is via whatever the IP mask is that your BA1 is running on.
For instance, 127.0.0.1:8282 will get the interface on the PC you are on. If you know the IP of the other PCs, substituting the actual IP will address that version of BA1.To set it up, go into Common/System/HTTP Access
Maybe you need some mic processing before your mixer. Most serious stations have a mic processor/AGC because no two presenters speak the same way.
Something like this is what I had in mind – probably overkill, but there are simpler mic processors.
Maybe you need some mic processing before your mixer. Most serious stations have a mic processor/AGC because no two presenters speak the same way.
I am still trying to find something we can all look to as the definitive guide.
Most manufacturers will produce documentation, but it is always skewed towards their particular product.
I want a instructions which embrace at least most quality sound card providers.Hi Radio Incontro.
Leif is super busy, but I am trying to take over some of the support for this wonderful product. However, as a software developer myself, I know that almost no-one can explain all of the intracies that the actual inventor can.I have a working copy that I use almost daily, so please fire your questions at me and I will try to answer them, or I will seek input from others.
Meanwhile, you might get some inspiration out of an article I wrote on the Breakaway Audio Enhancer thread, most of which applies to BA1 as well.
Please follow the link below for further information.
- https://ceaforum.net/?topic=breakaway-audio-enhancer-update-v1-41-0#post-16263
Hi Mike! You made it!
I have moved your query to the correct thread.You make the coarse adjustments by selecting a preset. You can work your way through the ones provided to see if any approximate what you are trying to achieve.
Then you make adjustments using the sliders provided for Power (Compression Ratio), Compression Range and Compression Speed. If you hover the mouse cursor over each of the sliders, a pop-up will explain what each one does.
As Mr K said, I am just waiting final approval to provide a link to the new program. The problem is that Virtual Audio Cables does not play nice in the sandpit, so BAE has been updated with a newer version. Once we get through QC, it will be made available.
Ah, but there is! If you right click anywhere over the RH panel (or BAE logo) when BAE is open in full screen, there’s an option to “Close Main Screen”. This drops it to an icon in the Systray. If you click ONCE on the icon, you get a tiny popup where you can mute, bypass or adjust the volume. If you double-click, you get the full screen back. It remembers this state when the PC is shut down, so it will only open full screen if you want it.
Have you had a chance to tweak the buffers and things in the setup? If you ran the wizard, BAE makes a few guesses. You can then fine-tune these selections.
Right click on the main screen logo and select “Settings”. First click on “Test” and read the information displayed in the central window. Amongst others, it will display an input and output jitter percentage. The aim is to get that jitter as low as possible.By tinkering with the KS, WAV and DS options, and the size and number of buffers, you should be able to get jitter to around 10% or better. If you can’t, but can’t hear any glitches, that’s fine, but fine-tuning is worth it.
Also, by default, BAE upscales from CD quality (44100) to DVD quality (48000). In most cases, this is pointless, so it is better to select 44100 for both input and output, and then adjust the buffers accordingly.
Usually (but not always), buffers in multiples of 441 (100th of sample rate) works best with 44100, but every sound card, and PC setup is a little different.
