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Obviously, using another device to give you some more control over the levels (a bit like using a mixer channel or Distribution Amplifier). Many radio stations have a DA rack in the control room to tweak all of the sources to a similar level. However, it intoduces yet another source of noise, distortion and breakdown failure risk.
MilkyKeymasterUnusual that two sound devices should be so different. They are usually set to a defacto output which is similar from device to device.
I know that you can provide input gain (HD core > Misc > I/O > Main Input > Input Gain). Does this help?
MilkyKeymasterJust to eliminate the Behringer, can you route BAE to your internal sound or some other device?
What happens if you ignore the Wizard’s settings and play around with the buffer settings manually? Usually, a buffer size in multiples of the sample rate works best (as in your 882), but sometimes, if the sound card has unusual frame geometry, a different buffer size works better. Start at 441 and run the test for each setting after that.
MilkyKeymasterOK, let’s start over and see if we can figure this out.
In my situation, my playout software has the option to choose Pipeline1 as its output. I assume that your karaoke software should have a similar option to route its output.In BAE, I have the input as Pipeline1, KS, buffer 960/4 48000
The output for this exercise is my laptop Realtek speakers, KS, 960/4 48000In Windows, I have made sure to also select output properties to be 16 bit/48000.
When I run the Test option in BAE, I get an input jitter of 10% for the pipeline and 3% for the Realtek driver.
Please try to draw comparisons with your setup and let me know the figures you get.
MilkyKeymasterI am of the vintage that listens predominantly to the music you are playing. I do listen to SOME “modern” music, but much more ove the pre-Y2K period. These were times before a lot of compression and other processing, so you really don’t want anything too heavy.
My marketplace is not in a situation where I have to out-shout other stations much, so I can concentrate on good, clean, open sound without having to crash through other louder sources.
Personally, I like to start with the “Refernce Settings” preset and tweak the minor settings through the “enhance” option. This will level all the quieter 60s, 70s tracks with the louder 80s to noughties, without any over-driving.
If you want something a little more aggressive, try French Kiss or Quintessence.MilkyKeymaster“Worth getting” is in the ear of the beholder (and their needs). I use BAE for my day-to-day laptop requirements to level YouTube and other clips from the internet, but I use BA1 HD for my main Music Room.
I need to qualify that by saying that I own several radio stations and engineer for several others, so BA1 is my “go to” software for commercial use.MilkyKeymasterBAE is the “Little Brother: of BA1. It was written in 32 bit architechture when Windows XP was king, so is currently in re-development to port it to 64 bit and with more options. Don’t hold your breath waiting for a release date.
Breakaway One shares a lot of code with the very successful Omnia range of broadcast controllers. It also has many, many features which are broadcast-specific, so it really is a giant sledge hammer to crack a tiny nut if you are using it for home music listening. However, it has the benefit of much more recent code, 64 bit processing, a range of available presets etc, so, if you can afford at least an HD core, streaming module if that’s what you do and I would suggest the Manaagement Package for convenience in controlling it, then go right ahead an get the Big Brother version.
There are many, many options you may never need. For instance, you could have a copy of BA1 at the studio end controlling output from the studios, and then send it to another copy of BA1 at the transmitter site for final broadcast, complete with alternate fail-over options if a link, or links goes down. Noe of this is available in BAE.
MilkyKeymasterThirty three percent is very high, so it’s no surprise that you can hear it. What happens if you just run the Wizard and let BAE decide the buffers? If you can’t get it down from 33%, it might be better to go with WAV, which is not quite so “pure”, but it just may be that your soundcard can’t handle KS very well.
MilkyKeymasterI don’t suppose it’s a Windows sound setup issue? I recall a certain brand of soundcard had a “what you hear” option which, when turned on in Control Panel, produced an output from whatever sound scource was selected. If you are using the Pipeline, you don’t need this.
MilkyKeymasterThe licence is tied to the MAC address of the old PC, so you need to install BA1 in demo mode on the new PC and then generate a licence summary from it and email that with a brief explanation and your old licence details to broadcast@claessonedwards.com.
If you use BA Remote, go to Common > Licence > Get Licence Summary. Copy and paste it to a file and send it to broadcast@claessonedwards.com.
MilkyKeymasterThanks for the feedback. It may help someone else with similar issues.
MilkyKeymasterIf there’s an echo, it sounds like one of the inputs is being re-directed back through, slightly out of phase. Do you have ASIO as well as non-ASIO running, or something like that?
MilkyKeymasterTo be honest, I’ve never agonised over the pipeline settings. It is just used as a convenient way of trapping the soundcard output if your playout software does not have an inbuilt option that you can select. By default, it is DVD quality, so shouldn’t need any alteration.
Typically, if your playout software has an input level adjustment, I would run it 3 to 5 dB down, to give BAE AGC some headroom to work. If the input is too hot, BAE will be constantly clamping it back down and it will lose a lot of its dynamics.
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MilkyKeymasterI will try to set up a simulation on my test rig and get back to you with options. If anyone else has already done this, feel free to chime in.
MilkyKeymasterI am totally at a loss over this. I have relayed on all the information that you sent to me. I’ll contact John again to see where it is at, but it is now the weekend, so I may not get a response until Monday.
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