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Ideally the Breakaway PC should be at the TXer site for lessening the chances of artifacts slipping in after your processing. But it can get hammered by RF too so don’t put it any closer than you have too.
The link you are using should be A OK I’d look at the protocaols used on the Barix boxes. Using them to "stream" via the IP link isn’t the best. Streaming means your live talent will not like monitoring off air due to the delay. Plus mp3 is tossing stuff away. You need to use a protocol that is linear. I think RTP is it for barix. But there is a down side and that is RTP doesn’t like network jitters.
The point missed by every one when putting the audio processing at the TXer site is the link can still get over driven. There needs to be a form of peak limiting at the front of the stl before just so you can’t over drive the link – nothing more! The realwork is done by breakaway at the site.
Yes Jesse,
I think ole mate is using a laptop and they don’t alway you to turn stuff off in the bios as you would know. I’m sure things will get fixed at some point. But right now it feels like we are at a point where if you don’t set this up with your eyes open (to see the vintage of the drivers the mother board disc is loading) and brain engage you will fall fowl with the pourly coded drivers as you say!
Why are you using laptops for a full on service? Laptops don’t let you change stuff in the Bios as a general rule. With all the new speed steeping CPUs around (laptops inc) etc you need to turn off the stepping!
Also turn off the "real time" priority in Breakaway. Also the phase scrambler.
I went through all this when I purcahsed Windows 7 64 bit and loaded it all into the latest machines. I can’t imagine how frustrating it is on lap top. I did how wever visit my local pc shop and got told all the same things by the boys there, They just had a customer in the recording game going sick at them over his new laptop causing "dropout" about 3hrs of tweaking tracks!
You probably wouldn’t want to do this but it works too. Put everything back to XP! There is some audio playout software out there that wasn’t written for cpus that change speed. This is what I did for a mate that runs radio stations in remote sites. New boards, New Ram etc but the moment the speed stepping kicks in it flips out the play out software also not just Breakaway!
My request is for Leif to more bullet proof Breakaway in this day of speed stepping cpus!
Guys unticking the box for real time was the fix for me. Never missed a beat since. The boxes I’ve got running here are onthe air 24/7 and that is all they do. All the blurb seems to be related to the clock speed being changed to suit the work load of the video card. You couldbe forgiven for thinking thats got nothing to do with audio. But when you think about the pc as a whole you realise it can mess with the buss speed for everything else too.
I found the answer in a Windows support forum. Where it said that if the pc was used for audio work to turn off the video enhancement etc as it MIGHT effect the audio.
I’m not sure to this day if it is really a combination of both. I’m too scared to mess with it to find out.
BUT the short version of this post is do the "untick realtime" box trick FIRST. You might save your self a lot of digging around in the bios
Hows everything going Breakaway community? My little fix has worked again on a mates setup. He updated to Windows 7 64bit and contacted me with the same issue. After a "few" days the audio goes to pot. Not a few seconds like the sticky. I simply told him to untick the "priority box" in Breakaway Broadcast. The next day he turned up with a bunch of cold beers and a big thank you! "Man that was driving me nuts for a week" he said!
Any idea guys when Leif might put out a new release more suitable for the modern pc’s?
I’m a little puzzled why you would go down to LIVE from the full version. If CPU power is the reason I understand. For me it was the opposite way. I was frustrated with lowe power machines not putting the gloss on the processing that the final limiters does in Broadcast.
To my understanding a little pre-emph is spot on for the streams. The comments for me have come in saying "it’s more controlled" but still phatt! I like phatt btw.
You might want to try a few different presets. Cleveland brightens things up then I find a little bass added is it.
Regards
Pete
Thanks JesseG, You might think of getting an official title as support guru! I’d do something about the track the sticky takes you down first though. Say soemthing like "do this first" then try the sticky’s info if symptoms persist. It led me down a path I don’t think I needed to go down. I’m also not keen to revisit and fine out for sure as it’s now fixed.
For anyone else reading this. UNTICK THE PROIRITY BOX in Breakaway Broadcast if you are using Windows 7 64 bit with speed stepping etc. Then do as the sticky says only if you still have issues. Also bare in mind that my issue was after a few days!! Not minutes like the sticky says. That in itself might be the clue that my issue was sort of different!
Not being smart – just sharing!
Hi Jesse. The standard onboard video card for that mother board. Gigabyte H61M-D2-B3.
I’m not sure if it was the total fix from the start BUT unticking the box that makes Breakaway Broadcast always top priority has fixed it for me.
Totally the opposite to what you think it should do.
Thanks Jesse. I thought I was going silly. I did everything mentioned in the sticky and still it happened. This is not anywhere near a laptop btw. I might have sounded a little snippy too sorry about that. Was getting to the point of pulling it all out.
Don’t you mean CPU? 300 series sound familiar. It’s a Gigbyte board though with "new b3" stepping. Looks to me that might be the thing to steer around.
cheers
Since no one has replied I assume everyone things I’m silly or the sticky has all the successfull answers! I’m sorry it doesn’t seem to! For all the people that got frustrated as hell like I did. Downloaded latency testers and all the latest drivers from the maker’s sites like is suggested in the sticky says. Even for people that asked the question – what the hell is a laptop doing anywhere near a software processor made for a Broadcasting Chain? Here’s the VERY Short version that is working for me.
After messing about in the Bios turning off things like EIST in the advanced settings. Windows reports the varying of the clock speed to the video card (to keep the card cool etc) can stuff up audio. Windows say to turn it off if you are not using your pc for gaming and audio work is your main focus. It works – sort of!
Windows power managment needs to be on Hi Performance too. The idea is so it doesn’t park your cores. But looking in Reource Monitor – it still does??
I emailed Leif in frustration! He suggested to change the Streaming Kernels — KS to WS or DS etc. That was the first thing I had done. But the next thing was the answer!!
Turning off the "System Priority" in Breakaway itself! This worked for me – I think it still cracks once here and there but it doesn’t totally fry itself like before after 2/3 days.
Don’t forget this was happening further down the road than the 30mins that was mentioned in the sticky. Hope this helps people!!!!!!! I nearly asked for my money back!!
Wow been a little busy here since I last posted. I’m not sure what version of the Edcast Dll I’m running nor the encoder for aac etc. I realise they will do the job a little differently between brands & yes personal opinion it was (based in years of using it that way).
24K mp3 mono 22050 (for player compatiblity)
64K Stereo Acc+ (for audio quality without massive download)
128K mp3 Stereo (don’t use with aac+ so all media players can decode it) aac+ really isn’t needed up this hiHi David,
I wouldn’t touch much else. Breakaway Live is acceptible for streaming. Just watch the quality of the files infront of it.
Today with HDD’s cheap as use waves! Stuff converting to mp3’s unless you realy need to.
Hey guys, I’m wondering if that’s really the intension of the movie makers. I’d be more inclined to say you don’t have everything setup right. There are big dynamic hits when explosions go off and there is only one way to get that! Why do you want to squeeze it with compression?
I’ve setup home theatre for a lot of people and I hear it all the time. They "can’t hear the talking" and then "boom" an explosion blows them out of their chair! I make sure they have the optical cable between their DVD and the AMP. That at leasts can tell the AMP what the movie is encoded in and give it some chance of being right (seperate to the human factor). Then it’s down to what silly echo effect the remote jumped you onto last time the cat sat on it!
Hey off topic abit- but does any one know where I can get just a Doldby 5.1 decoder for home theatre? No echoes etc wanted just the 5.1 channels please and a volume knob for more or less boom!
My advise is look at the way you have everything set. I’m sure the movie people would be shocked to hear you want to compress it. Hey don’t get me wrong I understand why too. I’ve used Yamaha for all my installs they have Night Theatre that raynes in the dynamics a fiar bit.
