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Just to clarify…
you need the attenuation before any FX plugins in breakaway that alter the peaks in such a way where they can become higher. Such as the phase rotation stuff (includes impact/clunk and bass-efx). The exception is if you’re not running full scale digital audio into Breakaway. If you’re giving yourself like 12dB headroom, then you’re not going to be generating near that much additional peaks from having a few phase rotation plugins.
you don’t need the attenuation before any ENCODER plugins unless they don’t provide any built in attenuation. if that’s the case, do that after any encoder plugins that do have attenuation built in.
Where is it inside of Breakaway? It’s actually just a combination of effecting things that are already there. It’s not some specific thing that is at one place, just changing things. 🙂 Mainly parametric EQs (for bass boost) and changing Band 1 & 2 thresholds (boost and cut).
@ Waves, not sure. I think Joe’s using version 6 still since we set it up. If it ain’t broke… yeah.
Waves 8 is out I guess. But personally not a fan of Waves at all overall, especially their company & "support". The MaxxBass plugin is great though, and reference quality for what it does.
Another secret that most people don’t know about is Waves R-Bass running into a MaxxBass, with the R-Bass crossover at around half of the MaxxBass crossover… and you get this INSANELY huge bass thud that’s double harmonics upward… But the real secret that you should know about is that many Waves plugins preset files, which are XML, can be edited and there are sometimes *many* more settings in the presets than what you see on the interface. R-Bass is one of them, and with the right tweaks in the preset file, you can get a redonkulous bass sound from it, without overloading the peak levels and without sounding muddy.
First time I’ve ever talked about that one publicly. 🙂 That’s one part of what I was using on Radioio.com which held the #1 spot online for 2.5 years straight, so I know it "works". 😉
Part of it is "Phase Rotator" into "Impact/Clunk" on Impact 2, Clunk 1. After that is a MaxxBass to push some low bass up an octave. On that, medium crossover with a pretty high roll off and slightly above 0 dynamics (like 0.07 or something) and crossover frequency of 91 Hz. Pretty low mix levels. There’s something else between those but it’s a secret. Breakaway’s Bass Boost is not used on it.
Breakaway’s Bass Boost by itself can work wonders though. Part of it is effecting the bass clippers, so you can add some nice density that way, as well as increasing the overall loudness of it just before it hits the final limiters.
If you do do bass processing before Breakaway, make sure it’s subtle on its own. Something that you don’t really notice much when the processing is bypassed, because that effect will usually be emphasized when a track with lower bass comes along and gets ridden up by the processor. Basically so that you’re adding to the consistency *after* processing way more than you’re taking away from bass punch on the loud bass songs. Don’t break that one rule and you’ll be fine and shouldn’t ever go to mushy bass land that everyone hates to visit.
I’m not actually a fan of Bass-EFX because while it DOES make a huge freakin thud on many tracks that have low lows, it also tends to want to take away from upper bass (lower than mid-bass) punch, like actual kick drums. In only a few cases I have also heard it make the low lows less louder, but I’ve only heard that happen maybe 2-3 times out of a *lot* of listening to it.
see if you like this:
http://91.121.201.88:8000/listen.pls
it’s the birthplace/test-grounds of the Motor City preset, and still runs it.What else is running besides the core? Challenger? Speaker controller?
A more complete screen cap of your settings would help to reproduce it.
exactly, RealVNC is very light on the system, and free. (unless you want the features in the Enterprise version)
[quote author=”camclone”]fortunately , Windows media player by default has a – 50 % volume .
thank u Microsoft !
[/quote]They haven’t always been so thoughtful. Case in point, Windows Media Player 8… SRS TruBass and WOW (as in: wow, that sounds like crap) were enabled and cranked by default.
[quote author=”Boki”]So, Best what i can done is to put AAC (low rate) in FLA!
Patched IceCast Server with mountpoint yourstation.fla and some simple Web Player, like JWPlayer. Users will only need to open site. And music is there.[/quote]That works, but JW and flash player in general still are causing a "memory leak" of sorts from that, right? Or has that been fixed now?
The problem is you are requesting the audio from the remote computer when you’re connecting. You have to set in the RDP connection settings that you don’t want audio from the remote, and the problem won’t happen.
[quote author=”camclone”]i play -1 db lower for clipping protection with some bad-written audiocard drivers who thousands of listeners have on their PCs![/quote]
-1.0dB will slightly lower the RMS, but with mp3 or wma you will still be peaking above 0dB, then it get clipped. with 128kbps mp3 you need around -1.5dB to prevent audible clipping.that being said, i’ve found that most cards, even the non cheapest ones, still are pushing the analog path to the limit to get a better dynamic range on paper. very sad. so really to start to solve that problem, you’re looking at more like -6dB if not more. better yet, let the peaks still hit high, but just remove all limiting, so your average is lower but still with peaks. 🙂
it is very abnormal to have a card like my Apogee Mini-DAC. the dynamic range is 119dB, rated at +0dB (unity) gain, but the THD+N is rated at +24dB gain and is still something silly low like 0.00001%, which is more in tune with how top-shelf analog paths were setup for a long time. at least to +14dB anyways.
it’s quite sad that the transient transparency of many soundcards are ruined in order to get a high dynamic range on paper. i’m glad you recognize that problem camclone. 🙂
[quote author=”Boki”]Don’t forget attenuation of at least 1dB.[/quote]
Actually, I’ve found that an attenuation of 1.5dB to be needed, for mp3, or there can be audible distortion. PS/HE profile AAC usually requires even more.It’s impossible to say if it’s loud or not without hearing it on air, or if there is an MPX recording for use in MPX Tool with a note about what is the reference levels for 75kHz deviation. (or a DMPX file to go with it) 😉 There is no way to relate a stereo recording to loudness, without some context.
