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MrKloroxParticipant
Just about everything offered is fully functional in its demo state. You won't have to buy anything then discover it doesn't work on your system.
I don't exactly have the option to experiment on that operating system. I also don't see alternate audio interfaces in Altacast, such as Wave or ASIO. Perhaps KS is simply non functional in Server 2019? I've never run a Windows Server OS before.
I figure it's worth trying the Breakaway streaming encoder module to see if it does what you need.
MrKloroxParticipantStrange. I just downloaded it to give it a try, and I'm able to get my output pipeline to show up as input and make the audio meters move (once I click them). I'm in windows 10 though.
MrKloroxParticipant[quote author=lpy7 link=topic=5963.msg20450#msg20450 date=1585159415]
I agree, things could change between now and the final version. But for anyone who relies heavily on virtual cables, it's more or less a notice to just be cautious before you jump to 2004, just in case it's still broken.[/quote]
Thank you for the heads up! I do rely heavily on multiple instances of the Breakaway Pipeline.MrKloroxParticipant[quote author=Milky link=topic=5515.msg20445#msg20445 date=1584651001]
There is a "sticky" at the top of this thread about a new release to resolve BSOD in Win 10. Is this relevant?
[/quote]I don't think it is, sadly. Lenovo laptops have a partnership with Dolby and it includes a software that's quite a bit more than the basic Windows "enhancements." I'm sure this is what's causing some sort of conflict or incompatibility. I don't think merely disabling it will do the trick.https://www.dolby.com/us/en/mobile/lenovo-case-study.html
quote :Many Lenovo models, such as the Lenovo G, S, E, and L series laptops, can render the typical two-channel sound of videos into 5.1-channel surround sound through headphones. A volume leveler feature locks in your preferred volume for consistent listening. With a 20-band graphic equalizer, you have complete control over the audio profile.EDIT: So this might not be an issue if you could install BAE without "testing" your audio. This required test seems to be in Kernal Streaming; whereas once installed, you can choose from other audio systems (I forget which, I already uninstalled it — I wanna say KS, WDM and one more). Just in case it's the KS that's the issue. BreakawayOne, on the other hand, allows initial setup with other audio system interfaces.
edit2: more links about the software that's presumably causing the conflict:
https://www.dolby.com/us/en/technologies/dolby-advanced-audio-v2.html
https://www.dolby.com/us/en/technologies/dolby-home-theater-v4.htmlMrKloroxParticipantHello! I'm a BAO user, but I'll try my best to help. A while back I was looking into ways to get that dolby driver on standard non-Lenovo PCs, so I have very little experience with it, but I did get it working at one point. But I don't currently have it on this machine and I'm not sure how to go about finding the modified driver and app again. From memory, it seems like a per-application auto-eq and wideband compressor. I believe this was before I found Breakaway Audio Enhancer, so I don't have any experience getting them to work together.
You mention having a Realtek driver installed, but are the traces of the Dolby driver and its effects app completely gone? I'm thinking both BAE and Dolby must be attempting to use the same buffer space or something? @JesseG is likely right though(dude knows the ins and outs of Breakaway). [EDIT: This is not to be confused with Dolby Access]
I'm worried if completely removing the default drivers doesn't help, your friend will need to buy a USB sound card/DAC/interface (this includes USB headphones). You can get a very basic one for like a fifth the price of BAE off Amazon. But like everything, for a better sounding device, you'll end up paying more. Also if the headphones are any good, you'll probably benefit from an external device regardless of whether Breakaway is being used. To do this you would want to look up the Ohm rating (impedance) of the headphones and find a device that can drive them at least that hard.
As far as your music group goes, I've also successfully recommended BAE to about a half dozen friends and none of them have had any issues with BSODs. The most common issue is Windows likes to change devices when they're plugged in; whereas BAE likes to keep its original device until it's changed in the settings. BAOne supports multiple outputs, though, and a different trial mode if you have some friends who are put off by this.
Best of luck!
edit: Or your friend could try BreakawayOne, (and then add ASIO4ALL if BAO doesn't work on its own). Regardless, I gotta go with the USB DAC suggestion, even if it does work.
MrKloroxParticipantFirst, the only type of plugins supported are 32-bit VST plugins for Windows. Are you certain the files you have qualify?
Second, make sure they're either placed in a location BreakawayOne can read from. Or run it as Administrator, in case they're in program files for example.
Best of luck!
MrKloroxParticipantThanks Keith and Leif! So how does Processor Latency Mode affect the buffer? [Core> Misc> Processor> Latency Mode] Not talking about the separate LL module.
I notice if I set my new ASIO SPDIF interface to a buffer size of 32 at 48khz, I can only use High Quality in my HD core without noise artifacts. However a size of 64 at 48khz can work fine in Extra Low Latency, but still has audible artifacts when I choose the standard Low Latency mode. I'm guessing it's supposed to be buffer size 1x @ Extra Low Latency, 2x @ Low Latency, and 4x @ High Quality?
Still, it probably shouldn't be making any buffer related noise at standard LL, but not when on Extra LL, right?
MrKloroxParticipant[quote author=Milky link=topic=5935.msg20412#msg20412 date=1581110739]
I've never used Esi, but I can't imagine the behaviour you are describing as "normal" nor "acceptable". Are the drivers the latest for your PC? Is the USB port definitely 3.0? If you use an earlier USB port, it might work, but the bandwidth would not be supported over the slower speed.
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Definitely using latest drivers and a USB3 bus. Gave it a second chance earlier and it was just as disappointing.I'm sending it back and ordered a MiniDSP USBStreamer box (https://www.minidsp.com/products/usb-audio-interface/usbstreamer-box). It's mostly a single use device, but it's the only other ASIO interface with SPDIF I could find for my price range. Luckily it should be all I need to run my video game console audio through BreakawayOne at low latency, which was my primary interest.
Sorry to hijack the thread :-[
MrKloroxParticipantOof, my new ESI U24XL must be defective. It doesn't even go above 48kHz. It straight up refuses to even hold 48 and always downshifts to 44.1 without resampling. It just skips frames and sounds terrible.
MrKloroxParticipantI just ordered an ESI U24XL. Been looking for an ASIO device with SPDIF input.
MrKloroxParticipantI don't know sound cards, but you can get upgraded to the Full FM core for free since you own Breakaway ASIO: https://www.claessonedwards.com/free-upgrade/
However if you're not planning on using the FM features, you might be able to get a fully decked out HD core and the Management Package. It all depends on what you need to do.
MrKloroxParticipant[quote author=beej6 link=topic=5923.msg20393#msg20393 date=1579703566]
They are usually trying to achieve a "signature sound" beyond what the main processor is producing.
[/quote]Sure. In search of the elusive 'signature sound' you eventually want to obtain, it seems perfectly valid to even add redundant processing to the mix. As long as you and your audience are happy enough.
[quote author=evert22 link=topic=5923.msg20392#msg20392 date=1579654167]
That is where I cited my concern: While the manuals of the processors of other brands, except BAO. They recommend sending flat audio, without any processing prior to the input of the FM processor.[/quote]I always took the warning not to use extra pre-processing to mean they want to keep product support as easy as possible for the company (kinda like how modifying various types of hardware often voids your warranty). After it leaves their processor, it's out of their hands and whatever one does to the sound from that point on is at their own risk of degrading quality. But if it comes in raw, they can help explain why things sound the way they do.
If I'm not mistaken, some previous Breakaway Broadcast products had Winamp DSP plugin support for things like Leif's own Phase Tornado (presumably the predecessor to Phase Scrambler in the Omnias). So that's probably why BAO doesn't warn against it.
Leif's previous Omnia products had Undo before the main processing chain. So my assumption of Leif's philosophy is that a declipper VST might even be suggested as long as it's like the first thing in the chain.
MrKloroxParticipantHi. I'm a hobbyist with no analog equipment, rack modules, or even a 'real' sound card. Having said that disclaimer I still think that sub-harmonic enhancement, via a VST plugin on the input, helps fill in the bottom end. I use a Buttkicker for monitoring bass, so the extra low stuff needs to be additionally enhanced or filled in just a little bit for me.
But really I guess it depends on the capabilities processor itself. You don't want to add anything redundant, unless it's just part of the sound you want to have. I'm from the perspective that audio rules are made to be broken… except when it's actually illegal.
In the case of BreakawayOne, there's a lot of 'secret sauce' in the formula. So I don't know how much harmonic excitement, if any, is under the hood. It's been a while since I skimmed through an Omnia 7/9 manual, so I can't remember if BreakawayOne's ultimate versions have harmonic flavor added. I'm also not really sure what the Bass EFX, Clunk, and Slam functions do or if Stereo Enhancement is required to be on/up.
I'm looking at that Behringer you mentioned. I might be interested in having that thing to precondition my Buttkicker and Subwoofer. I'm watching the TWIRT on Texar Audio Prism right now.
edit: Okay after skimming the Omnia 7FM and 9 manuals it doesn't appear that any sub harmonic enhancement is in the O7, which is apparently closest to BAO. It is, however, in the 9 and 11. Telos calls it Solar Plexus, but I'm not certain who designed it; as it seems to have started with the O11 (which is Cornelius Gould's).
I'm not seeing upper harmonic enhancement in the features for O7 except for perhaps Phase Scrambler, which doesn't seem to be in BAO (?). So those effects wouldn't be redundant.
MrKloroxParticipant[quote author=ddtop link=topic=5904.msg20359#msg20359 date=1577913694]
…next will be
BreakawayOne – 7 bands (2020 version)?Happy new Year!!!
[/quote]Hmm, interesting. I'd totally take 7-bands; but my primary wish would be a way to buy the multiband expander portion of Undo.
Happy new year!
MrKloroxParticipantIt looks like there are 30 presets total that are 5-bands or fewer in both the AM zip and the 3.20.04 patch. Many are already included in BreakawayOne. I've attached a zip with them sorted by bands. The root directory is full of 5-band presets only. I've actually really taken to the All News Aggressive preset from the O.7/9 AM zip. It fits my morning routine better than my previous vocal clarity setting.
It would be nice to have BAone say something when you load a preset that has arguments/controls for functions that aren't available, and maybe a short list of what they are. That way we can more easily tell if an Omnia preset in BAone is very far from its intended sound.
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1. Fleetwood Mac – Seven Wonders
2. ? (short selection)
3. Tasmin Archer – Sleeping Satellite
4. ? (non-English or mixed duet?)
5. Norah Jones – Seven Years
[/quote]Much appreciated!
The 4th one was the one I was most curious about. Perhaps I'll go back and try to Shazam it or something.[quote author=ddtop link=topic=5904.msg20357#msg20357 date=1577049850]
The 4th song is Youssou N'Dour & Cherry – 7 seconds
[/quote]Excellent!
Thank you both!
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