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PepperjackMember
Don’t feed the trolls.
Probably a member of the Vorsis R&D team 😆
PepperjackMemberThank you Leif via LeeXS. That is extremely helpful!
PepperjackMemberI’d like to add that if anybody has any setting specific tweaks, please post ’em. It’s kind of vague as to what each slider is controlling. Especially the bass settings. Is it Q? What freq is it centered around?
PepperjackMemberDunno. I listen to it in my car through my Win SmartPhone. I pull the embedded player page but of course the ads don’t display in IE mobile. Then click the Winamp link which spawns GS Player. I guess it THINKS the ads displayed.
I’ve also been able to make a listen page on The Vortex Facebook page. The ads don’t display there either, but the links work. Very odd..
Search Vortex Radio on Facebook if you’re so inclined. 8)
@Guillou: I’m going for a warm "subwoofery" bass. I may take it back a tick though. It sure sounds good in my car!PepperjackMemberThanks Jesse.
Yeah, it’s a limitation of the free streaming service I’m using. Bypassing the ads results in that error so no direct linking or bookmarking the stream is allowed. Still, up to 1000 listeners free of charge ain’t a bad deal! I have their ad displaying at the very bottom of the page.
PepperjackMemberHigh praise sir. Thank you! 😀
As I said in an earlier post, I HAVE to have it processed. The radio-guy in me demands it, but this sounds pretty nice to my ear. New York it is!
PepperjackMemberHey Jesse..
The latest version of the LAME encoder proved stable. I’ve ditched the BBE and am running your New York preset dialed slightly back to the low 40s. Final drive is at -1 db. I’d love you to give it a listen and evaluate.
Thanks so much. If we ever meet, the drinks are on me!
PJ
PepperjackMemberAlright. I found out what I was doing wrong. Needed to create a new encoder and the LAME codec showed up. Problem is, it crashes SAM and locks up the machine. I’ve tried it twice with the same results. I get a bunch of exception handling errors then it slams to a halt. Very strange.
I have downloaded 3.98.4 and loaded that one. We’ve made it two songs and it hasn’t crapped out yet. I can definitely tell a difference in the quality! Hope this works long term.
PepperjackMemberOK Jesse. I have followed your instructions and am not seeing that encoder in my list. Turned out I already had the FAST one running rather than the HQ. And to answer from last night, yes I’m hearing the BBE to my liking, and Sadies show was mastered at 192kbps MP3. I will work toward getting the rest of my library replaced with higher quality stuff.
Thanks again for the help.
PepperjackMemberOutstanding! I will give that a shot when my traffic dies down a bit and let you know.
PepperjackMemberThanks Jesse.
I say "personal" use, but I’m an ex radio guy (25 years in fact) and have an affinity for punchy audio. I got into broadcasting when Texar Audio Prisms were the "it" box. Follow those up with the 8100 and later Frank Foti’s Cutting Edge stuff and of course the Omnia continues to be one of my favorite hardware processors. I simply have to have it audibly processed. In fact, at one station I programmed we would run each song through an Aphex Compellor as we dubbed it into the system. 😀
On the webstream I do actually have a handful of fans that listen. Some of my ex-radio buddies who are also out of the biz do shows for me to "scratch the itch" that never goes away. They send mp3s of the finished segments and I load ’em up. One is on as I type this.
I did put the BBE in front of Breakaway and dialed it back to 2 and 2. Also relaxed my Plutonium settings to about 40 for each value. Seems to have relaxed some of the midrange rushing I noticed today. I was playing "Rock and Roll Is Dead" by Lenny Kravitz and the solo guitar at the beginning was amped all the way up. When the drums kicked EVERYTHING dropped back. Endless tweaking with this seems to be the norm.
On the stream encoding, I’m pretty well locked to 128kbps mp3 as that is the highest rez format my (free) stream provider will allow. If EdCast will do that, I’ll look into it since you guys all agree it is superior.
PepperjackMemberLeif.. Jesse.. OK guys.. Let’s just take a deep breath here 😆
When I mentioned not clipping in my first post, I meant that the input was not going up to the 0db line. Peaks were hitting at about -2. I should note that this is all hobbyist stuff for me. I have the stream going and the soundcard also feeds a (slightly modified) car-type FM transmitter designed for an Ipod. I’m a good bit quieter than the local commercial FMs but whatever 🙄
It’s just for me to hear around the house.I have the lowpass in Breakaway set to 16khz to not mess with the stereo pilot on cymbals and sibilance and I don’t detect any loss of highs on the stream as a result. I do appreciate the input and will try to find something better to use as an encoder than SAM’s onboard streamers. That was out of convenience more than anything.
PepperjackMemberOutstanding feedback. Thank you both!
I’ll put it in front of Breakaway and dial back the aggressiveness of the BBE. As far as the encoder goes, I’m using the encoder onboard SAM Broadcaster. That could be part of the artifacts you’re hearing, plus there are more than a few tracks in my library at 128kbps MP3. I’ve tried to replace as many as time and money will allow, but it’s an ongoing process. Garbage in, garbage out I know 😉
Any suggestions on another encoder to try?
PepperjackMemberIck.. You’d need something pretty pumpy. Maybe try a wideband comp/limiter instead 😆
PepperjackMemberA self proclaimed processing guru, who I won’t name here, had quite a good analogy that even radio GMs could understand. Imagine taking a jpg thumbnail and blowing it up to be twenty feet on a side. That’s what an mp3 sounds like when it runs through an audio chain.
I can tell you that since I switched to Breakaway I’ve noticed several crappy sounding mp3s in my library and have been replacing them as I find them. Nothing like a "shit magnifying glass" to keep you honest!
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