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Folks. Listen to me. I am a 20 year veteran of the music industry. THIS IS ALL BS!! All this software does is re-equalize and re-compress and limit the signal that PROFESSIONALS have spent countless hours recording, mixing and mastering. Who do you think knows better how the content should sound: Some piece of software or men and women who have been doing this job for decades in rooms that are specifically designed, built and tuned for the purpose of LISTENING?!
The vast majority of audio content we hear (NOT listen to. There is a big difference.) these days is already so edited, automatically tuned, spatially enhanced, compressed and limited that it no longer even vaguely represents what the artist played or the sound they had in mind. All this piece of software does is make this problem even worse.
You don’t have to believe me. Believe the facts. Do a search for "volume wars" or "listener fatigue." Educate yourselves. Refuse to fall into the pit of commercial BS and consumerism that promises a Fix-All.
There is nothing "professional" about what this software does. It is simply making questionable-sounding audio even worse.
If you have any questions feel free to contact me at chriswlanger@gmail.com. I welcome all inquiries.
Hang on, so having only been involved in the Music Industry for the last 20 years, you are no doubt aware that your own industry has irrevocably damaged most commercial music since 2001 by heavily clipping and limiting the end product released on CD?
Broadcast Audio Processors such as Breakaway have to work with this destroyed audio and try and re-equalise these terrible masters to produce some semblance of an appealing product.
It’s a classic case of Garbage in – Garbage out!
Breakway has the cleanest processing engine of all the commercial Audio Processors available – the author of Breakaway is also is responsbile for designing respected high end television audio processors so how about informing yourself a bit more before going off on a rant!
Pull your head in!
Well, consider the source.
Someone comes in here, and on only his second post, knows more than everyone else.
The comments about CD processing are certainly valid, as would be any commentary about the differences between getting music from his pristine studios to a home stereo or the interior of a car.
Methinks there’s more to this guys story.
I can only see 20 years of arrogance from someone who never actually tried BBP and doesn’t know who’s behind it…
(or he does, and has a purpose)I am very aware of what has happened to the quality of audio over the last 20 years. You are correct about the clipping and limiting. However, there is no fix for that. You cannot un-clip or un-limit something. You can use all sorts of tricks to try and fool the ear into thinking you have "fixed’ something, but it is a lie. Also, equalization has nothing to do with trying to remove compression, limiting or clipping. EQ deals with relative levels of frequencies. That’s it. I wholeheartedly agree with "Garbage In-Garbage Out," so why spend $30 or more on something that can’t fix the problem? The only solution is for people that actually still purchase music to educate themselves on what quality audio actually sounds like and then stand up and refuse to purchase anything that falls below the bar.
It pains me to see people falling for this crap and spending money on it.
There is a lot more to my story. 20 years’ worth of trying to make music sound like it does when I was recording it and have that transfer to someone’s system in their cars or living rooms, and seeing people just settling for over compressed crap that has been band-limited into an MP3 and then monitored on ear buds. No one cares anymore. That’s just sad. The reason we create music in a "pristine studio" is because only in that situation can you really hear what is going on in the music. That way we can manipulate it (if we have to) to try and get it to resemble that on the vast majority of systems and environments.
Arrogance? It’s called "experience and knowledge." I don’t really care who is behind it. It does not "fix" any of the issues of over compression, limiting or clipping by using more EQ, compression and limiting. It’s a ridiculous claim used solely to sell product to people who don’t know any better. I don’t have to try the product. I have heard many others like it. I understand the physics of sound and also what has been done to the content we are bombarded with every day.
I almost forgot: the sound on most TV programs and especially commercials are horrendous! I would much rather have my TV audio sound like my records used to (yes, actual RECORDS) than the other way around.
hardcore i do see your point about how much music now days is so compressed, breakaway is an fm audio processer which is essential for running a radio station, why is this? competition, all commercial stations are in competition with each other and the sound of the station is one of those things they all try to better each other on. in some cases stations compress their audio even more so much in fact their probably over the legal limit eith 50 or 75. i will admit like everyone here i love breakaway, it has made top quality processing affordable for people who aren’t commercial stations who haven’t the money for certain other processers and the best thing is that this one sounds better than the 10 20 grand competition.
maybe because of your view……
which make you now…..a VETERAN (from Latin vetus,meaning OLD)
😀If he is this man:
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I hope Leif read this thread and can comment.
I like about the thing that this program "fools" my ears, it makes music sound better, that’s the point of this software!
[quote author=”hardcore”]Folks. Listen to me. I am a 20 year veteran of the music industry. THIS IS ALL BS!! All this software does is re-equalize and re-compress and limit the signal that PROFESSIONALS have spent countless hours recording, mixing and mastering. Who do you think knows better how the content should sound: Some piece of software or men and women who have been doing this job for decades in rooms that are specifically designed, built and tuned for the purpose of LISTENING?! [/quote]
You sound a little frustrating. Is this because the music industry is "down the drain" for the last couple of years?
Leif (the programmer of this nice piece of software) is a PROFESSIONAL. He knows exactly what he is doing. What about all the web radio, pirate and other small (local) radio stations who want to sound like the big radio stations (with the big bucks). They can not afford thousends of dollars for radio audio processing.quote :The vast majority of audio content we hear (NOT listen to. There is a big difference.) these days is already so edited, automatically tuned, spatially enhanced, compressed and limited that it no longer even vaguely represents what the artist played or the sound they had in mind. All this piece of software does is make this problem even worse.You forget to mention that the most audio CD’s (what we are listening at home) these days are over modulated (clipped) also by PROFESSIONALS. Look at the "CD Hall of Clipping Shame" at this site:
http://www.cutestudio.net/data/products/audio/CD_clipping/shame/index.phpquote :You don’t have to believe me. Believe the facts. Do a search for “volume wars” or “listener fatigue.” Educate yourselves. Refuse to fall into the pit of commercial BS and consumerism that promises a Fix-All.There is nothing “professional” about what this software does. It is simply making questionable-sounding audio even worse.
What this software does is ABSOLUTELY professional for (small) radio makers, DJ’s and all the other peoples who don’t have the big bucks to buy the expensive hardware audio processing boxes.
Only my 2 cents about this issue…
[quote author=”hardcore”]It does not "fix" any of the issues of over compression, limiting or clipping by using more EQ, compression and limiting. It’s a ridiculous claim used solely to sell product to people who don’t know any better. I don’t have to try the product.[/quote]Where was it ever claimed that Breakaway fixes/undoes over-compression/limiting/clipping? Just wondering. As a mastering engineer with 15 years experience (and believe it or not adamantly against multiband comp/lim or any heavy handed comp/lim period for mastering and especially against over-compressed mixes), I wouldn’t see a mistake like that without letting Leif know about it. Did I not notice it somewhere?
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As for how clean & dynamic Breakaway can sound… check this mp3 out with no need to install anything. And I’ve improved that preset slightly more since, including adding another 2-3 dB of headroom. Hyper-limited input audio comes out about -6dBfs on the output.
I think the hangup you have is Breakaway in relation to critical listening. People that have experienced great sound first hand "get it" in ways that people with crap for daily listening just don’t understand, or they wouldn’t have crap. I think there’s very few people that know great sound and critically listen to music that don’t press the bypass button on Breakaway. Or don’t even have Breakaway installed on their main system at all. I do have it installed on one of the inputs to my main system, but only to use the linear-phase parametric EQs. 🙂
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