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Oooouuupsss !
I completely changed my mind.
Now I think that you take too big steps with the version numbers.I think it is necessary to compile a 0.90.94b !
I have found an unbelievable "bug". ❗ 😆
There is Zenith (the new version) and Zenith OB (the old version) and other OB presets.
But where is Twente OB (the version before build 87 ? – for sure as it was in build 69, see link) ?Ironically this is missing, though I think that this request for the old version of Twente started (or re-upped) the discussion and the wish to access older presets:
viewtopic.php?f=5&t=872&start=0I don’t need this (old Twente) any longer, because I found a better alternative for my special purpose.
But I don’t know if sven_1968 and Gerrie still need it.But seriously:
When I compare build 69 and build 94 it is absolute ridiculous to name them 0.90.69 and 0.90.94.
There are so many changes that indicate to name them for example 1.00 RC3 and 1.5 RC1.Yes, it is really a problem with your small numbers, because nobody would expect that there are so many changes, improvements and new features inside.
Using this 0.90.xy beta naming scheme I would expect only bug fixes for a buggy (!) software, but not all these changes and new features for an almost stable and reliable application.
From my point view it is time to release a 1.00 version (just wait a few weeks for user feedback – if anybody has a severe problem with build 94).
And then go on with beta versions like this: 1.00.01 beta, 1.00.02 beta, …..
Ten betas should be enough.
When a beta is stable then release it as non-beta, for example: 1.00.07 beta -> version 1.01 !Why selling a good and stable software under a misleading beta label ? ❓ ➡ 💡
@ Leif
As I wrote analogous in my pm a few days ago:
Your "problem" is that most of your beta versions are much more stable and reliable than yearly 1.0, 2.0, 3.0,…. etc. releases of major software companies.A beta version is (normally) a beta version and not a major release !
So if there occurs any problem (I don’t believe in any severe !) it would be okay, because everybody should know what he or she does, when they execute a beta version installer.It seems to me as if you try to redefine the meaning of "beta version" with the type of your stable and reliable beta releases ! 😀
The eggs are really big this year.
And Breakaway build 94 is the biggest ! 😀 😆Jabbadabbadoo !
Thank you very much Bunny (the artist formerly known as Leif) !
By coincidence ?
Or by demand (not really) ?Oh, Jesse’s answer really darkened my hopes.
But, finally it happened.
I can’t wait to try it.Thank you Jesse !
I misunderstood you, because I wanted to misunderstand you .
Now I understand. 💡quote :Please don’t make me regret that I’m open with some of the information I share. 8)I don’t think that you betrayed somebody or something with your information (or was it classified as top secret ?).
So, please keep on bug tracking until it (the final stable beta – before Breakaway I did not know that something like this exists ) is ready.
I will try to be patient.
But please allow me another question (I hope the answer is not top secret ?):
How long approx. ?
Is it a question of days ?
Of weeks ?
Of months ?
(My first intention was to add here a line "Of years ?", but I came to the conclusion that it would be a ridiculous horror scenario.)Happy Easter !
I thought build 0.90.94 would be our Easter egg.
But it seems that there is no Easter bunny here.[quote author=”Leif”]Fixed for 0.90.94 🙂 .[/quote]
[quote author=”JesseG”]Confirmed, I’m using it right now. Fantastic sound too.[/quote]So, beta version 0.90.94 is ready for release ?
Or is it not a beta and more or less still an alpha version for bug tracking of the inner circle (Leif and Jesse ?) of beta (alpha) testers ?Call it beta, call it alpha, call it whatever.
There might be small bugs (or some features incomplete) !?
I don’t care.
Let us have a look on this version !
(please give us a download link !)
The typical beta location link……..
/beta/breakaway_live_setup_0.90.xy.exe
works with build 93, but not with build 94 !
Please, make it work.If you (using a professional DAW) really need ASIO you have to go for the professional version:
Breakaway Live (this supports ASIO).
This version has the advantage that it has an unlimited trial period !
The only limitation is that randomly approx. every hour for a few seconds the audio is bypassed with an audio commercial (Leif speaks to convince you to buy the software).But maybe there is a solution for your "problem" without extra costs:
Do you know (have you tried to use) the free ASIO4all driver ?
http://tippach.business.t-online.de/asio4all/intro.html
While Breakaway Enhancer uses the WDM driver, you can use the ASIO4all driver in Sonar (I hope it works with 96 kHz for you).
There is no 100 percent guaranty, but it is worth to try it.With my cheap Realtek HD Audio onboard it works (this parallel usage).
It is also possible (for me) to use the Breakaway Pipeline inside the ASIO4all driver (it is nice to have the Breakaway processing as an option for some VSTi using MiniHost – this way to hear how it could sound without the need to setup a whole processing chain inside a DAW).Not working.
Read this (the whole topic and follow the links):
viewtopic.php?p=1866#p1866
But you can try other Winamp DSP based plugins and use Winamp’s diskwriter output plugin (or other filewriter output plugins that support mp3 and other encoders).
Of course you won’t get the same quality as with Breakaway processing.
But it is better to have an (maybe inferior) alternative for batch processing than none as long you have no plans to win an audio mastering competition.[quote author=”sven_1968″]Do you have any idea when this ini-file will be available?[/quote]It is not that simple.
It needs more than a new ini-file.
Leif has to build a new version of Breakaway Live that will understand this new old presets option of the ini-file and a breakawaylive.exe that has stored all these old (extra) presets and the expansion of the preset menu for the GUI.
So it will take some time.
And I am sure there other things on Leif’s priority (to-do list) before he has time to add this option.
So, I think it is not a question of days.
It is a question of weeks or months (though I hope it would be ready tomorrow).
As Martin Luther King said: "I have a dream,…..".[quote author=”Leif”]I think I have a solution. I’ll make an ini-file key, something like "include_obsolete_presets=1", and if a user sets that key, they’ll get the full list of presets including older ones. The list will get very long, but that way I can bring any old preset back for those who want them.[/quote]That would be fantastic !
I had too much time and "developed" this more complicated "concept" (so just for the record ❗ ) that goes in the same direction:
Inspired by Leif’s doubts.[quote author=”Leif”]Loading presets from files is not available because it’s essentially equal to full control.
Full control is not available because leaving it out is the one thing that makes it possible to sell a specialized product so inexpensively, while leaving the door open for more advanced versions in the future….. perhaps I can think of a good way to choose the older presets without them cluttering up the meny. I’ll keep it in the back of my head, if I can think of a good way I might do it[/quote]What do you think about this concept:
A preset menu with 23 preset slots.
All presets (including old presets) are read only inside the breakawaylive.exe
and not as separate files !
By default all preset slots are loaded with latest presets.
But the users have the option to load other (official) presets stored in breakawaylive.exe (this way certified by you) to the slots.
A "Load Preset" button that opens a read only database of all (historic) presets.
To show the difference between new and old presets you could add an extra info to every preset name.
For example:
By default "Twente V.2" is loaded to one of the 23 menu slots.
But it is possible to load "Twente V.1" to this or every other preset slot.
The information about what presets are loaded to the slots will be written to the
breakawaylive.ini file.This way you won’t lose control of which presets can be used and which not.
The user has the same limited access to preset options and no access to core settings of the presets.
Using this concept no user can add (load) presets that are designed and limited to other (advanced professional) Breakaway applications in the future or rip new presets to use them in illegal older versions of Breakaway.Complicated because this slot concept needs extra time of programming to change the GUI structure. It would waste too much of Leif’s time.
Of course Leif’s simple INI file solution is much better (easier to do).
This option for old presets via breakawaylive.ini file editing is a tweak for advanced users only, that have no problem with a very long or cluttered preset list, because advanced users know the (old) presets they are looking for.[quote author=”Leif”]I generally try to leave well enough alone, and not alter presets. However, if there are good enough reasons, I occasionally make changes in the name of improving Breakaway…..
Once we do a 1.0 release, I will commit to not removing/replacing any presets, but until then Breakaway is technically still in beta, so trial and error is a natural part of the development process.[/quote]I understand your point of view 100 percent.
It is your interest to improve everything (the presets) for the (perfect) 1.0 release.
And in first place you trust your own ears.I am not a broadcaster and it is more my private home fun to try everything that might improve my personal listening.
I prefer a wide dynamic range and have no problem to tweak my volume settings up and down from one song to the next (only exception: for a party I use it like all others).
That’s why I don’t need and don’t have interest in most of Breakaway’s presets.
So my (minority) opinion about the presets is more or less irrelevant for your decisions, because I am not a typical member of your target group (customers).The reason why I prefered the old "Twente" preset:
With this I can turn down almost all sliders and use it as a very good (and carefull) one-click remastering alternative option for a wide range of my music.
I would never use it (old "Twente") with the default settings.If I really need a compromise between dynamic compression and transparency I prefer from the new presets "Rustonium" (tweaks: Range 40, Power 33).
But for my ears Jesse’s old "Rusticity ’83" is still a little better and has more transparency (only tweak: Power 35).But this is only my (minority) opinion.
[quote author=”Leif”]For Rusticity ’83 and ….. they were awful[/quote]I hope Jesse is not here and reads this. 😆
I don’t believe it (Rusticity ’83) is awful.
Or have you put it into the beta without "asking" your own ears ?
(because Jesse said: "Believe me. It is a good preset.".) ?I still trust Jesse’s ears.
[quote author=”grotebeer”]ik wil daar mee zeggen dat de kwaliteit achteruit gaat van de gekopieerde cd orgineel blijft beter.
ik heb hier een cd speler philips cd 880 met modificatie voor hifi die dat foutloos ten gehoore brengt.[/quote]Have you ever used Exact Audio Copy ?
It is free (for non-commercial purposes).
http://www.exactaudiocopy.de/quote :With other audio grabbers you usually need to listen to every grabbed wave because they only do jitter correction.
Scratched CDs read on CD-ROM drives often produce distortions. But listening to every extracted audio track is a waste of time. Exact Audio Copy conquer these problems by making use of several technologies like multi-reading with verify and AccurateRip.But my intention was to convince you to save your CDs on your PC (harddisk) and not to burn new CDs (that wouldn’t make sense).
Of course it would be better to use a high quality soundcard instead of onboard sound to match the audio quality of a good CD player.But if you are that type of HiFi purist that pay hundreds of € for special cables, I don’t believe that you will like what comes out of Breakaway’s outputs at all.
Maybe I am wrong, but I think, that Leif has written, that he speaks dutch.
That’s why I don’t understand, why he did not give you the link to Breakaway Live.
Maybe he thought that BA Live (129 $) is too expensive for your needs as home user in comparison to BA Enhancer (29 $).[quote author=”grotebeer”]nu was mijn idee om mijn cd speler aan de comp te koppelen en dan zo te proberen die ook via breakaway laten spelen en dan te beluisteren of die kwaliteit ook beter word.[/quote]
http://www.claessonedwards.com/index.ph … &Itemid=55quote :Introducing Breakaway Live(BETA):
Breakaway processing for studio, mastering, microphones, monitoring, live usehttp://www.claessonedwards.com/beta/bre … .90.77.exe
or here the latest beta
http://www.claessonedwards.com/beta/bre … .90.93.exe
You can install Breakaway Live without the need to deinstall Breakaway Enhancer.
So you can try the trial version of Breakaway Live and see (or better hear).
In Breakaway Live you can select your soundcard input (driver) instead of the Breakaway pipeline as input using the line in.
This way you can send the output of your CD player through Breakaway Live and its processing !If you like what you hear, there might be a way to crossgrade from BA Enhancer to BA Live.
But this question goes to Leif.
Or better wait until the release of the 5.1-capable pro version of BA Enhancer which will also have line in (but will cost less than 129 $).
I am sure that there will be a crossgrade option for users of BA Enhancer (standard version) to the Pro version (with line in option).@ Leif
I hope for an option to load presets from older versions for the new Pro version (and BA Live updates too).
?[quote author=”sgeirk”]It’s a small problem and a small price to pay for an unbelievable tool.[/quote]???
We are talking about the changes of presets ("Twente") !quote :Version 0.90.87
All-new “Twente” preset – modified version of Plutonium with more steady compression (good for old vinyl) and much more bass kick!viewtopic.php?p=4628#p4628
I don’t like this new "Twente", too.
I prefer the old "Twente".
But my favourite Breakaway preset is "Rusticity ’83" that does not exist anymore in newer versions at all.
I really hope that Leif reconsiders the preset handling and adds an option to load presets from older versions.
It is really annoying to lose your favourite presets when you want to update the software.Other changes here:
viewtopic.php?p=3403#p3403Maybe Leif gives you the download links for older beta versions ?
Until an update will come with an option to load presets from older versions.[quote author=”grotebeer”]de bedoeling is dat ik dan alles op de zelfde kwaliteit krijg[/quote]I don’t speak dutch.
But I understand 99 percent of it (when it is written), because it is very close to the traditional (almost lost) Low German (Plattdüütsch) in northern Germany.
http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlatdietsLeif is from Sweden.
Have you mistaken the identities of Leif Claesson (Breakaway) and Hans van Zutphen (Stereo Tool) ?
http://www.stereotool.com/
http://forums.stereotool.com/viewforum. … 442d34502a
I hope Leif has no problem with these links, because you (grotebeer) have already bought Breakaway Enhancer.You should consider to save all your Audio CDs on your PC (as virtual CDs or lossless flac audio files if you don’t want to use lossy compressions like MP3, etc.).
On an 1 TeraByte external harddisk (using USB 2.0 connection) you can save 1500 – 2000 Audio CDs (without compression) !Besides using Breakaway (Enhancer) it is a great advantage to play every music without any delay (no more lost time to remove one CD and put the next one in or searching).
And then you are free to combine every title you want in unlimited playlists.
I am sure you will rediscover some music you have not heard for a long time.
For a high quality transfer you can use the freeware Exact Audio Copy:
http://www.exactaudiocopy.de/Instead of Winamp you could use the free version of MediaMonkey for playing (and as your music database):
http://www.mediamonkey.com/mediamonkey_nederlands.htm
http://www.mediamonkey.com/I asked my brother to check it with BA Live trial.
I told him to use the Bypass and described it very simple ("the button has to be red" etc.) and let BA Live run (in Bypass !) for a minimum of two hours.
So I have no doubt that he really set it to Bypass.
After approximately an hour he heard someone talking to him. 🙄
It must have been you Leif. Imagine:
He (my brother or someone else) is watching a thriller (via DVB card) and suddenly and without any warning he cannot listen to a very important dialogue for the whole movie plot.
Even for well-known movies like "Casablanca" it would be annoying.
Instead of Bogie, Ingrid Bergman would have to listen to you Leif. So either an explicit warning about this audio interception during trial mode after every start of BA Live or disable it when it is set to Bypass.
And Leif don’t ge me wrong, you have a good voice, but it would have an extra charm if these words would be spoken by a female and not a male voice.
And it would be perfect if she has a nice Swedish local accent.
(Eeengleesh vid de Sveeedeeesh acky-centy eees de moost hilariooos dialectas…)
http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Engl … ish_accent
Ok, I don’t know if Ingrid Bergman has time to do it for you.
But what about your girl-friend or your sister ?I remember that I bought more numbers a year of the german "Keys" magazine as long as the examples on the audio CD were spoken by a girl called Gia.
No doubt, males and females prefer and trust more in female (less aggressive) voices.
