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Oh, alright. That’s not non-stop, but it does mean that it hasn’t stopped without being asked to — also a good thing.
///Leif
Awesome, lpy!
That must mean you’re still running 0.90.64.. man, that just kicks ass for a first beta 😀.
///Leif
It’s mine indeed 😉. Painstakingly wrote every line of code.. and many lines of code it is.
Looking forward to hearing your results!
Best,
///LeifPatrick, I don’t see the sound going out of SAM. SAM’s output is disabled. How is the audio supposed to get into Breakaway?
I do see Breakaway’s output going into SAM’s encoder, but that won’t help unless Breakaway sees some audio 😉.
What happens if you select Breakaway Pipeline 1 as the Output Driver in SAM?
Also, I would absolutely recommend using Kernel Streaming in Breakaway, for both Input and Output. That way, Breakaway can talk to the pipeline driver directly, without having to go through windows audio subsystem.
///Leif
Breakaway Live could work!
I’ve never heard of an U-Control202 (and a google search yielded ONE match — another post by you!) but assuming it’s an asio sound card, you should be able get very low latency.
Feedback could be an issue.
You could use a combination of 3 things:
Range Control, Power Control, and adjusting the actual microphone gains on the mixer
..to yield acceptable gain ranges while staying out of feedback.
As for preset, i would try one of the two Microphone presets 🙂.
Best regards,
///LeifHey Patrick! Long time no see 🙂.
The encoder, is it built into SAM, is it a DSP plug-in, or is it a standalone application?
If it’s one of the two former, you should be able to feed it from Breakaway Live.
What have you tried so far?
///Leif
Hi Adam!
Yes, I do. Look-ahead limiters cause IM distortion when driven too hard.. Unfortunately, most people aren’t consciously aware of this type of distortion, so they may not readily hear it — but it’s causes listener fatigue regardless, subconsciously.
Really, the best solution can be found in Breakaway Personal — it HAS no final drive control. 🙂 However, for Live, people wouldn’t accept that. So, there aren’t a lot of options, except to warn customers not to try to overdo the loudness with Live. If you’re looking for absolute loudness, Live is the wrong product! However, if it’s OK to be 2dB quieter than BBP (which is really 2dB above the norm for web streaming), you can save both CPU power and latency by using Live.
Best regards,
///LeifI tend to think that if they had thought of putting an oscilloscope in (and knew how to write efficient code for one), then they would have done that instead of putting the Dorrough meter in 🙂.
However, I do have to write a loudness measurement algorithm for a different project for Linear Acoustic real soon, so if I can think of a sensible and easy way to put it into Breakaway, I might just do it.
///Leif
OK, good point, Stuart 😉. I just didn’t know how to respond yet, was still thinking about it.
The thing is, loudness meters are pretty misleading for radio. Loudness depends on so many things (exciter output gain, lack of peak overshoots), but most importantly — a loudness meter doesn’t tell you how it sounds! It could be extremely distorted, and EQ’ed to be all midrange (to hit the ear where it hurts), the loudness meter would show a nice high value, but who would listen? 🙂
Can you explain to me, what is the utility of having a loudness meter in a radio processor? What would it be used for?
///Leif
Hi lpy! I must have missed it.
When everything is optimal, they’re identical.
However, if you mismatch formats (for example try to play 48000hz into a 44100hz cable), the result will differ:
VAC 4.x is a WDM driver, so Windows will do (horrendously bad) sample rate conversion, but let the audio play.
VAC 3.x, on the other hand, will simply refuse to open.
Which method is better is a matter of opinion 🙂.
///Leif
Appie, you can boost the bass with the Bass Boost slider 🙂. Don’t forget to also turn Final Drive down a little bit to make some headroom for the extra bass.
///Leif
Hi Erwin!
The presets can not be used in older versions of breakaway. There is no reason to use an older version — updates are free! Just install the new one, it will remain registered.
///Leif
Hi Scott!
Thank you 🙂.
Red meters indicates clipping detected on the input. The clipping could very likely be present in the source material — for example a clipped CD encoded to MP3 will clip again at decode, unless you attenuate inside the MP3 decoder.
It’s really nothing to worry about — the feature is there mostly for when using an external analog input, so that clipping is readily apparent. If you want to "turn off" the indicator, here is one way to do it: [attachment=1:2ckhu0yq]dsp_attenuator_1dB.zip[/attachment:2ckhu0yq]
LiveLink pulls *unprocessed* audio from Live. If it hadn’t, it would indeed be double processing. 🙂
LiveLink is a convenience feature — if you’re running BA Live with an ASIO sound card, there’d be no way to get the unprocessed audio from the same sound card. LiveLink makes that easy. If you’re using a standard sound card (KS / DS / Wave interface) then you can usually open the same card in different programs, and then there’s really no reason to use LiveLink.
Breakaway Pipeline is licensed VAC 4.x. FlexConnect is licensed VAC 2.x — and actually I had a hand in that too, as that was an Octiv product, which I co-founded. 😉
Anyway, VAC 4.x (and thus Pipeline) does have problems on certain systems. I’ve been bugging him for a solution, and have been for quite a while. In fact, he has given me a full version of VAC 3.12, legal to use for all Breakaway customers, until a more permanent solution is found. [attachment=0:2ckhu0yq]vac312full_breakaway.zip[/attachment:2ckhu0yq]
Using Audio Repeater with pipelines could work OK (if the pipelines weren’t causing problems already), but one issue is that the pipelines are not synchronized to the sound cards — there will always be clock drift. Breakaway (all versions!) contain asynchronous adaptive sample rate converters for this very reason — but (as far as i know) no other programs do, including Audio Repeater. So, even if it worked, there’d be periodical glitches.
Best regards,
///Leif
