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I think someone said the broadcast Warehouse 1watt PLL Module has flat, No Tilt response, these can be had for around £100.
Also if your exciter does have tilt, how could you measure this using MPXtool? Does this mean you have to get an MPX tuner?
I await Leif’s PEQ and Tilt results for the Sound Blaster and Asus cards so I run it at full throttle… 😀
[quote author=”Leif”]I can measure and post the SB Audigy 2 and the ASUS P5KPL On-Board settings. I can’t do the M-Audio — I modified the card with bigger capacitors to remove the tilt in hardware, so it’s not stock anymore 😉.
///Leif[/quote]
That would be great!
I did see your write-up on modifying the M-Audio card somewhere with extra capacitors, how does this benefit the audio compared to just using the Tilt settings in BBP? 😀
Speaking of the PEQ Leif, I recall from another forum that you have tried and tested, the M-Audio 192, Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS (PCI) and the ASUS P5KPL-AM On-Board card.
As I have all 3 of these, is there any chance you could post the PEQ settings and the Tilt settings so people who have these cards can get the most out of BBP??
Regards
I had simular problem, try using Wave for inputs and outputs instead of KS. Use the test tone to see if it’s still happening. Otherwise like Leif said, it could be encoder related.
Thanks Leif,
I’ll give the test a try.
I’ve also tried Spartacus and I can barely notice any difference!
Just to clarify, the "stokkemasker" only limits the stereo field in the post 20hz region when using MPX? Not audio between DC and 16Khz? And using this limiter improves peaks in general without degrading the sound?
[quote author=”celar”]Yeah, I like the New York preset but I noticed it can get into "listener fatigue" territory real fast! (I think Adam uses New York too — assuming he’s still using that in Breakaway Live)
I started using New York mostly because I couldn’t get the other presets to maintain consistent dynamics (between songs of different genres). But "New York" brought in a few other issues: squashing, pumping, etc. So I had to twiddle around and turn down a few things there too.
Maybe a new preset could fill this gap. If you find a preset that does a better job holding the spectral balance than "CHR", but isn’t quite as squashed as "New York" or "Amsterdam", that would be sweet.[/quote]
The amsterdam preset could but excellent if the algorithims in bands 1 and 2 were modified! it simply doesn’t have any bass! and if you try to increase the bass slider the bass sound gets smacked, squashing the wave! This preset with deep punchy bass would sound better than ALL the others!
I’ve been doing some further tests on this and after installing BBP on 3 different PC’s all with different Sound cards I’ve come to an interesting conclusion. Basically, when using a standard on board sound card, BBP is picking up "dirty sound card" noise, resulting in floor noise being processed causing the floor rush in BBP.
When using an M-Audio Audiophile 2496 Sound card this doesn’t happen so basically BBP is very sensitive to what you feed it and it must have minimal floor noise. In Didacs case, his console is causing the floor noise, causing BBP to be noisy but in mine it was the noisy on board card.
Leif, I know you want to keep the settings in BBP to the very minimal but I think a gate threshold level adjust wouldn’t go a miss fo rproblrms like these…Just like when you added the MPX EQ booster for sound card roll off! 😕
Hi leif,
I was using the Reference Heavy NR preset with these settings.
Drive +2.5
Range 45
Power 100
Speed 40
Bass Boost +20
Shape -20I will dig out the original sample when i’m home… 😉
Right, I have a screenshot for you of both audio clips, With & Without the gate and the audio files, not that you need them, as the screenshot tells all! 😉
As you can see on the clip Without gate, BBP starts to rush the floor noise up after 17 seconds and 13 seconds into this, it’s at a mega -6db!
Then the clip With the external gate (set to my special perameters
) has nothing.To be honest, any proper radio station that will be using BBP won’t get effected as they will NEVER have any audio silences, but it’s probably still a good idea to sort the gating issues as it’s an easy fix and it’s better with it, then without! 😀
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=VK65062A
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=BKA2FO18LOL…you’re correct, you can’t hear bass below 30hz but you can definatly feel it on a high quality monitering set up. When I compare 20hz to 30hz (low cut) using a good quality VST plug-in on Bessel filter, you definatly notice a difference!
As for the gate…I’ll record you a clip with and without the VST gate in front, for you to hear the differance. 🙂
Hi Leif, I have range set to 40 but power set to 100, this sounds best for me but floor noise is always there. Maybe I’m picking up interference from my cables, this could be a possibilty but it doesn’t seem to do it on SS…
Regards to the 30hz filter, I feel that it cuts off some of the fat big bottom bass, most decent exciters will be ok with 20hz but yes, you are right, some cheap ones may have problems, the option would be nice for those using high end set ups. 😀
Hi Leif,
very impressive software, well done.
I have to agree with Didac regarding the noise gate, it is very bad unfortunatly. It definatly isn’t the source material, it’s simply just the floor noise being processed heavily thus becoming very noisey when a track finishes. I’ve had to use a seperate VST gate in front of BBP to cure this. This is something Tomassi from Sound Solution got to work very well, the gate in SS works perfectly.
Also, any chance of a 20hz high pass filter setting, instead of 30hz being the lowest?
Thanks
