Audio

Alright, thanks Jesse!

You are right setting the Output to Breakaway Pipeline 1 does the trick…. 🙄

The PEQ settings are indeed helpful. Though they take a while to getting used to, especially the width part…

I was wondering however, what do you think of the Anwida 31 Band EQ vst plugin? Has anyone tried it to satisfaction?

Thanks!

Audio

[quote author=”RodeoJack”]My music tracks top out at about -6 with my jingles hitting -3 or so. I try to stay away from 0. Riding a song down at -10 can be difficult for any processor… especially if you randomize your selections.[/quote]

Rodeojack,

I have been wondering about your music tracks levels / jingles levels… How did you come to this conclusion as you mentioned it would be beneficial to have slightly higher levels at the start of a new cue… I am assuming that having equal levels on both the jingles and the music tracks would do the trick when applying a small fade prior to the segue point.

In any cases I have now managed to lower our jingles to around -4 dB using Wavegain and it seems to work much better this way! 🙂

We still have some problems on some music tracks being either too close to -1 dB or -10 dB. So we want to alter these via wavegain as well but are now wondering whether we should get at the same level as the jingles or replicate something along the line of what you’ve done.

Thanks,

Audio

[quote author=”JesseG”]i recommended 85 dB because it’s between the two, but more on the side of 83dB. Tim, what percentage of songs would you say actually get turned up at 85dB?[/quote]

Hi Jesse,

Thanks for the recommendation. I am looking at this today, using dBpoweramp and its useful DSPs, including replaygain:

– Convert file to 32 float
– Apply Replaygain, though they offer two desired volume settings for "active" and "inactive" ReplayGain: between 0 and -40dB??? what settings would you recommend here?
– Convert back to 16 bits

How does this sound? Do you think our uncompressed wav files will survive this? 🙂

Thanks,

Audio

[quote author=”jameskuzman”]In your initial post, you mention the problem when transitioning from a jingle to a song, but you didn’t say you were having a problem between two songs. [/quote]

Jim,
I actually only noticed the different songs level looking into this matter earlier today, but the problem is indeed with "loud" jingles preceding "lower level" songs. And since we play a jingle between each song, that’s the problem! What the different songs’ level does explain though is why this "ducking" is not taking place in each instances.

You are making a good point regarding the jingles’ RMS power values, I will have to dig into this a bit more and test different settings against some low level songs. You are correct BBP is able to cope with the different songs level quite well, usually.

I can not help thinking however that bringing all audio to similar levels would smooth things out.

Audio

[quote author=”RodeoJack”]Just an addition to what Jesse’s already contributed here:
This is a nifty trick, which works well in a live studio environment. It can also be done with automation, though you have to plan your system carefully to pull it off well.[/quote]

Thanks for the input! Very interesting indeed!

We are running mostly in an automated mode. How would you set this for automation? Would it be sufficient to set SPL to operate a light fade before the mix point or would we have to prep our wav files in some ways?

Thanks

Audio

Thanks Jesse,

I shall try that 🙂

Audio