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March 18, 2009 at 11:40 am #288didacParticipant
Hi!
I love the Zenith preset sound… it’s very clean and better preserves the original essence of the song.
But I don’t understand the definition of this preset in Breakaway, excluding it from the TV 😉 ….
Leif an JesseG, please tell me about this preset… It’s a emulation of other preset of sound processor hardware? Internally have stereo enhancer? I appreciate more separation of channels with this preset than others…
Thanks!
March 18, 2009 at 1:29 pm #6895timmywaParticipantI’m with you! Very natural and transparent processing. Jesse said he tried to do as much processing as he could without it sounding like he was. Very clear and clean and good, balanced EQ. I kept going back to it while I was testing the others. So I quit fighting and "settled" on Zenith. Love it.
March 18, 2009 at 7:59 pm #6896Lee XSMemberI feel it’s very nice for web radio but it can’t be used for FM. You’d sound quieter than everyone else! It’s very clean though, almost like a beefed up reference preset!
March 19, 2009 at 10:29 am #6897LuKParticipantSome tips to obtain more loud and bass impact from this (great) setting, for an FM pourpose? 🙂
March 19, 2009 at 1:58 pm #6898JesseGMemberUse Breakaway Broadcast, turn up final drive, turn up the bass. 😉
March 19, 2009 at 11:13 pm #6899LuKParticipantHehehe… Jesse, these are my actual settings, for Zenith preset:
Final Drive: +1 dB
Range: 76
Power: 70
Speed: 64
Bass Boost: +18
Bass Shape: -12Impact/Clunk: Clunk 1 – Slam 2
Bass-EFX: 3And this is the result streaming: "http://kos.broadstreamer.com/cgi-bin/listen.pls?7280"
What do you think about it?
Bye, thanks! 🙂
March 20, 2009 at 7:27 am #6900JesseGMemberI really like it. 🙂 Sometimes (most imho) NOT being the loudest sounding station on the dial, but the BEST sounding station… = WIN. There of course is the issue of stuff that sounds louder actually having the perception of sounding better, but that only lasts for 7 seconds, and only if the person doesn’t adjust the volume within that.
If that 7 seconds of slight advantage (in some ways yea, in some ways not) for sounding "better" because of that phenomenon… can be thrown by the way-side… like I know it can be… then given the right programming, and you can OWN any market for TSL.
Combine that with the right genra, and baby… you’re number one. 8)
re: Bass-EFX, read what I said about it here:
viewtopic.php?p=2249#p2249Anyways… 🙂 love how your on-air sounds. 🙂
March 20, 2009 at 10:15 am #6901LuKParticipantThanks, Jesse. 🙂
May 6, 2009 at 7:34 am #6902AnonymousGuestHi, i really like Zenith preset, it is so clean, smooth and punchy too, it also brings life to music. I really wonder if anyone can help me to obtain similar sound to Zenith for domestic recording using an external normal 10 bands equalizer, and what would be the setting of this equalizer. Is it similar to when we set our equalizer for the rock music?
Highly appreciate your help.
DawoodMay 6, 2009 at 9:19 am #6903LeifKeymasterHi Dawood!
EQ isn’t it. Breakaway is not an equalizer — thus, you cannot get the sound of Breakaway with just an equalizer.
///Leif
May 6, 2009 at 11:30 am #6904AnonymousGuestThanks Leif for your reply, that is true, it is not the sound of an equalizer.
May 7, 2009 at 3:10 am #6905AdamHMember[quote author=”JesseG”]If that 7 seconds of slight advantage (in some ways yea, in some ways not) for sounding "better" because of that phenomenon… can be thrown by the way-side… like I know it can be… then given the right programming, and you can OWN any market for TSL.[/quote]
I’d like to second this notion.
PPM is rolling out in the top 50 markets here in the US, and Arbitron has made it clear that this new way of getting listener data is going to be won by stations who are programming for TSL. Loud, maniacal processing works for the 13 year old girl who changes the station every ten seconds, but for the affluent 30-somethings ("working, playing, spending"…stupid sales signs) who actually keep the station tuned in for more than 1/3rd of a song, the processing is going to have to be tolerable. And Zenith with a kick of final drive does this perfectly on nearly every format (I wouldn’t put it on a rock station, but you get my point). AC, Hot AC, Lite, Smooth Jazz, Easy Listening…you know, all the money formats…sound fantastic under Zenith. It’s the most transparent preset I’ve ever heard.
Remember, loudness is all relative. Just because a station jumps out of the dial does not mean that it’s any "louder". It’s just modulating at a higher level. That’s why stereos have volume controls…so you can turn the rock station down, if you want, and crank the soft AC station all the way up. Now who is louder?
Adam
May 7, 2009 at 8:34 am #6906lpy7MemberI see online stations that don’t have the loudest audio, but still attract thousands of listeners. To me, that makes sense, ’cause I’d rather listen to a station that has some dynamics preserved than one that’s screaming with audio just to "beat the competition".
Maybe it depends what country you grow up in, because I struggle to understand the mentality of trying to be the loudest (all my local FM stations have the same loudness). Has anyone actually proved that being louder increases listeners? I wouldn’t mind seeing that.
That said, I’ve been happy with "Reference Heavy" so far, but I might give Zenith a go and see if I like it
May 7, 2009 at 11:06 am #6907LeifKeymasterIndeed.
Digitally Imported (di.fm / sky.fm) all run straight Reference Settings, and have been since I originally wrote the Breakaway Core in 2006.
Best,
///LeifMay 7, 2009 at 5:52 pm #6908JesseGMemberFor 2.5 years running, radioio.com was the #1 station and network (with only one channel) according to Arbitron and Ando… running my processing which Leif describes as "a very good sounding EQ". There was some average loudness processing happening before it, but very very little in the way of peak limiting. The HiFi guys loved it.
And by the way… that was only with word of mouth advertising. We never payed a red cent for promotions, other than the employees we had for making sure we got out there with player presets, website links, etc. But we never paid for any of that. With that quality of the programming AND sound, some companies were more than happy to PAY US to help promote us. !!!
I haven’t worked at radioio.com for 3 years though, so you can’t blame their current sound on me. 😉
I might add that this totally translates to the FM world too. Absolutely.
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