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    I use Breakaway Audio Enhancer as my main audio device in W10. Works fine.
    My laptop originally came with Dolby Audio DAX2 and Realtek drivers. Also worked fine.

    If I try to switch audio drivers either in "Configurations > System > Sound > Output device", or in "taskbar's Volume Control > playback" it results in a muted pc.
    In order to switch to realtek, I have to change using one of these methods and restarting windows, so it starts with the new driver as default.
    And if I want to experience Breakaway again, I have to switch back to it and restart again!

    I need this efficiency to be able to record without latency since Breakaway A.E. is giving a terrible latency and do not support ASIO. And this is work.
    Also, I don't want the modifications breakaway does to the audio into my recordings.

    So I need to know:
    1) Is there a way to switch back and forth from Breakaway to any other audio device (like Dolby, Realtek, VB-Cable, etc.) WITHOUT restarting?

    2) If I acquire Breakaway Live will it do everything Audio Enhancer does PLUS work with ASIO drives? (I'm still not sure what breakaway live is exactly)

    Am I missing something?
    Please help!

    Specs:
    Machine – Lenovo ideapad 320
    OS – Windows 10 Home Basic (up to date)
    CPU – Intel Core i5-7200U 2.50GHz
    GPU – GeForce 940MX
    Sound Card – Roland Quad Capture

    Drivers:
    ASIO4All
    VB-Cable
    Realtek HD
    Breakaway Line 1

    #5766
    JesseG
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    1. The "ASIO4All" software only provides a virtual ASIO soundcard, which then accesses the real soundcard using Kernel Streaming. If you switch from Kernel Streaming to ASIO on the same soundcard using that, you will actually get MORE latency.
    2. All versions of Breakaway support Kernel Streaming.
    3. BreakawayOne is the only Breakaway you can try/buy now that has ASIO support.

    If you're not using ASIO4All or VB-Cable, I would uninstall those. I've had a few experiences with VB-Cable negatively effecting system latency.


    The other issue you're having sounds like a combination of things.

    1. Your Windows default playback soundcard should be "Breakaway Pipeline 1"
    2. Your Windows default record soundcard should also be "Breakaway Pipeline 1" if you want to record what's being sent TO Breakaway to be processed. Hence, there will be no change from the audio that's being sent to it in your recordings.
    3. You might not have spent any time adjusting (reducing) Breakaway's soundcard buffer size and buffer count settings. How much latency are we talking about? 40 milliseconds? An entire second?

    If you fix # 1 and 2, and work on # 3 for a little bit to find a good combination of buffer settings (4 settings total for input and output buffer size and buffer count NOT a big hassle to ~perfect), then you should be able to get the delay low enough to not be noticeable.

    Final thoughts…

    1. there is a bypass button in Breakaway (and in the Breakway taskbar toolbar), so once you get setup you can easily disable the audio processing, and hear the original.
    2. you can switch the output soundcard in Breakaway any time you want, in the config, but the optimum buffer settings that work for one soundcard might not work stable (without audio glitching) for another soundcard. You should never have to reboot to change the output of Breakaway.

    #5767

    Thank you JesseG for the answer.

    I tweak my computer to the end to no avail.
    Then a bug happened in another forum I participate. The website was failing to redirect me after login.
    One moderator from their support team told me it was a "cookie" problem. I then decided to nuke cookies from my computer, together with all temporary files and clutter.
    I swept my computer with a tool called "WiseDiskCleaner"* and then restarted.
    To my surprise, my Windows now switch back and forth from Breakaway to DolbyDAX, no problem! I wonder where the problem was… some messed up setting or clutter conflict, god knows!
    So this problem is solved!  😀

    About the bypass button, hitting it for some reason do not sound the same to me. Sounds weak, too weak. Maybe the DolbyDAX also has some type of enhancement algorithm in it, even though I keep the equalizer flat.

    I still can't get rid of latency though. I want to record music, guitars, eletric guitars, keyboard, etc. with "live" VST effects emulated in VSTHost. The same problem happens if I emulate the plugins in a DAW. I have to figure why this ugly latency is happening. It is not too much, but enough to prevent proper playing. What is weird is that my microphone is just fine! Also, I had already tried changing buffer size, but it solved nothing. I tried changing cables, checking grounding, checking CPU usage, etc.
    My soundcard is a Roland QuaCapture. My pc an i5 7200U 8GB.

    *A rather dangerous tool, but I knew what I was doing, but I don't recommend for everyone. It can seriously damage Windows.

    #5768
    JesseG
    Member

    It could also be that the Roland itself just isn't capable of "low enough" latency for you, no matter what ASIO software/settings you use.

    Have you ever used an RME soundcard? :))

    #5769

    Never tried RME. I'm a begginer in the world of audio processing, started 2015.
    In the future I'll start my racks. I'm thinking about trying Waves Multirack to get a sense of it before inverting in real gear.
    The Roland QuadCapture is my entry soundcard. It has a decent performance with hardware like AMPs, but in Windows something is hogging it. I'll try Amplitube or Guitar Rig too see if its not a software problem. When I do it I'll report back.

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