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Leif said he would have a "BIG surprise (or two) at the meetdag", and I think it was held yesterday.
Anybody? Anybody?
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Yes yes leif have did his job verry well. A very nice day i can say. Now will more people chance to a computer with breakaway.
Leif sleeping @ the mc donalds. haha he my do that, after tis day.and the compsite what verry hard. verry nice. i think the price is to low. for so good processing in the compsite
greats
i think in some 2 weeks the recod files for mpxtool well online.
Hi Celar!
At the meetdag I showed the new composite clipper, and:
(drumroll)
The new Low Latency Breakaway Broadcast!
Microphone -> Airwaves in 18 milliseconds, with audio quality *very* close to regular BBP. Also has a built in studio output with about 8ms delay.
I’ll release it within a couple of months, it will cost $299, and it will be free for customers who have previously bought both Breakaway Live and Breakaway Broadcast! We’ll definitely have an upgrade program for people who are interested too.
This version will run ONLY with ASIO sound cards, but it will have a kernel streaming input for RDS/Sync in to function with the Airomate RDS encoder.
More later 🙂.
Best,
///LeifNice; that’s a great achievement. I would love to get info about the "trade-off" between regular BBP vs. low-latency BBP. (I’m guessing it’s in the clipper!) I’m sure you’ll have that info on the site when BBP-LL is offered for sale.
Great- can’t wait to hear more updates from the field.
Leif,
We’re all guessing you stole the show. 🙂
[quote author=”Leif”]
(drumroll)The new Low Latency Breakaway Broadcast!
Microphone -> Airwaves in 18 milliseconds, with audio quality *very* close to regular BBP. Also has a built in studio output with about 8ms delay.[/quote]
You’re really speaking our language now. 🙂This is excellent news. I know some prospective clients already.
Hoping to hear some reports from those who were present at the demonstration, including yourself when you have the Polka music out of your ears. 🙂
Scott
Hi guys!
Someone posted a short clip from my presentation:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98U70J9E … annel_page
Please excuse me losing the train of thought every couple of sentences.. Tends to happen, especially during presentations 😉.
quote :I would love to get info about the “trade-off” between regular BBP vs. low-latency BBP. (I’m guessing it’s in the clipper!)Biggest difference: Breakaway Core runs in Low Latency mode (like in Breakaway Audio Enhancer), not Phase Linear mode (like in normal BBP). Low and high pass filters are also not phase linear.
The clipper back-end is also different — it’s closer to the "cpu optimized" mode of standard BBP, but further slimmed down with latency in mind. Distortion control is done at half filter length (meaning half the block size) compared to standard BBP.
I must say that after developing the low latency version I was astounded how close the sound quality is to the full version! It’s really very close. The low latency version is still telephone, saxophone, xylophone-safe! There is a slight audible reduction in transient sharpness compared to standard BBP. Because the clipping has to be done in very few stages to maintain low latency, each chain has to do more, and more quickly, and as such it can’t pack things as tightly right at the edge of the waveform, and that’s where standard BBP puts those tight, sharp transients.
The low latency version has an on-air throughput latency of about 18ms.
There’s actually also an ultra-low-latency mode which halves the filter length again, and cuts on-air latency down to about 14ms. However, it trades off more distortion control, and at these settings it’s no longer xylophone-safe, and no longer "Evanescence – My Immortal" -safe, even though it still does better than most hardware processors. I wouldn’t use the ultra low latency setting myself, quality is too important to me — but I’ll leave it in, for people to make their own decision. You could also turn down the final drive a bit, trade off some loudness and clean up the sound.
I will upload MPX clips of the different clippers at some point, so you can compare them 😉.
Breakaway Broadcast Processor Plus (or whatever we’ll call it? BBPP? BBP Asio? Help, someone.) will also have a low latency studio output (pre-clipper) with less than 10ms delay (probably 8 or so). You’ll be able to choose on-air latency mode Low, Ultra-Low, or High (that is, maximum quality), while still having the low latency studio output.
It’ll be $299, and it will be a FREE upgrade for customers who own both BBP and Live. We’ll work out a $100 upgrade program for existing BBP-only customers too.
///Leif
Thanks for the video clip too. No complaints here about train of thought…. obviously the best evangelist for a new product is the guy who poured his passion into it.
Please allow me to just keep encouraging you…keep upping the processing ante. You’re doing a fine job so far!
Leif,
If there is a low latency studio output of about 8-10ms then why sacrifice anything for the transmitter feed as the days of monitoring off air in the studios are pretty close to gone. In some cases I’ve seen the Off Air (confidence) studio monitoring reduced to a few LED Level Meters somewhere in sight line so at least you know something is happening. 🙂
Scott
Scott, there’s a good reason:
Imagine you’re standing in a mobile studio with lots of other people around, speakers tuned in off-air, and you’re also wearing a pair of cans.. (Life of the Dutch radio pirate!). Cans have the 8ms feed, off-air is 18ms.. It’ll still work. On the other hand, if off-air was half a second delayed, it wouldn’t work very well — they’d simply be too far apart.
The ASIO version *will* have the option to run the full high-latency back-end for the on-air feed though. This way it will still save you from having to run two apps, AND it will save you from having to use two sound cards!
For example, you’ll be able to use the following as a minimum configuration:
ESI Juli@ card, ASIO running at 192 kHz.
L/R Analog Input = Audio Input, Stereo
L Analog Output = On-air output, MPX, Stereo
R Analog Output = Low-latency studio output, monoYou’d only get mono in your cans, but you’re getting by with a single 2-channel sound card, and you’d still be stereo on the air.
(If you have a 4 channel sound card, you’ll of course be able to get a stereo studio output.)
Best,
///LeifLeif,
My problem is I don’t think outside my own complex. 🙂
Couldn’t those Dutch Pirates feed the loudpseakers with a split from the 8ms studio feed? That may not be what the Dutch Pirate scene is all about (I don’t know). I always though being a pirate broadcaster was about being underground broadcasting but it seems they do it surrounded by lots of people. 🙂
Will the new version have the same final stage control as BBP now has as an option for the broadcast feed?
Scott
"the loudspeakers" probably entails a bunch of cars more than one might guess. my guess is very very few of them have aux inputs, and even if they all did… would you really want a bunch of separate circuits all connecting into your studio’s? personally i wouldn’t allow that in 100 years. the only answer is to do low-latency transmission, and if it can be done with very little compromise from the clarity of Breakaway, then… you’re still doing pretty darn good.
Jesse,
If the loudspeakers are from people’s cars them I can see it would pose a big problem. Again, I see, I am limiting my thinking to my own complex.
It seems this version of Breakaway is being designed for this market so I can see why those are the feature set.
Scott
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