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I want to assemble a small hardware box with a Intel Atom D525 processor.
This is a dual core (4 threads) 1.80 Ghz (1Mb) processor.
Integrated Graphics included.Will Breakaway Broadcast and/or Breakaway Live run smoothly on these processors?
I think about the following two Motherboards:
- AsRock AD525PV
- Gigabyte GA-D525TUD
These MBoards have 1 PCI slot, so they can support a PCI ASIO sound card.
Anybody has experience with Intel Atom processors and Breakaway products?
Live runs fine for sure, many instances should run fine. It’s low CPU use.
Not sure on Breakaway Broadcast. It should though… I think I recall that the "Extra Low CPU" mode even worked on a higher-end single core Atom. But don’t quote me on it. I’ll point Leif to this topic.
I do.
Standard Breakaway Broadcast should run fine on an Atom D525 (and on an Atom N280 in low cpu mode), but ASIO could be a problem at the lowest latency (17ms).
The clipper internally works on blocks of 512 samples, but for the lowest latency we have to run the sound card at 256 samples.
256 samples means one block of audio every 1.33 milliseconds.
So, here’s how the work load looks for the CPU:
Block 0: No work (buffering)
Block 1: 2.66ms of audio, must be finished in 1.33ms
Block 2: No work (buffering)
Block 3: 2.66ms of audio, must be finished in 1.33ms
Block 4: No work (buffering)
…No block must ever be late, or there would be a glitch in the audio. So for low latency, we must have lots of CPU headroom.
Anyway, even if the current version runs OK on an Atom, it doesn’t leave any headroom for future improvements. With a faster CPU, we can do better processing. So, if you’re building a machine specifically for BBP, I definitely do not recommend going with an Atom!
If you have an Atom laying around, then there’s no need to guess — download the demo and try it.
If I was building a Mini-ITX system today, I would base it on the Pentium Dual Core G620T. It’s 35 watts (perfect for Mini-ITX) but it’s Core i3 class (Sandy Bridge) — big improvement from Core 2.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … 6819116401In fact, I just bought a CPU like that for a new Mini-ITX system for my car audio PC 🙂.
Best regards,
///LeifAtom D525 have 1MB cache and that can be problemm too.
In other hand G620T is 3MB cache.G620T will do better job not just because it’s @ 2.2GHz.
Leif, thank you very much. Nice to here from you again.
You must be a busy man with all the new products around the corner.
Don’t forget your holiday though! 😉I also want to build a mini-ITX system. It needs to run Breakaway Broadcast + Airomate RDS, Breakaway Live (ASIO) and
OtsAv (audio mode only). Soundcard is gonna be a ESI Juli@.You think this wil run on a G620 processor or this config needs a i3, i5 or even i7 (2nd gen.)?
OtsAv-audio only, does not need many processor cycles.[quote author=”Dj Buik”]Breakaway Broadcast
Airomate RDS
Breakaway Live (ASIO)
OtsAv (audio mode only)[/quote]You should be fine. BBP itself will just barrrrely run on a P4 3.4gHz. The G620T should be more than 3 times as powerful (i wouldn’t be surprised if it’s 4-5 times as powerful). In comparison to BBP, Live, Airomate, and Ots all use a small fraction of the CPU. So yeah, you should be well under 50% with all of that.
Houston we have a problem…
I can not find any Mini ITX motherboard with a Intel 1155 socket AND with one (normal) PCI slot.
I think i need to fallback to micro ATX or i need a Mini ITX board with onboard sound that supports 192 KHz audio output for MPX.
Any suggestions?
If you have the cash, jump all over this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … 6813157252
the Z68 chipset is awesome, plus most of the latest ASRock features, Win, win.Or $30 cheaper
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … 6813157233But those only run i7/i5/i3:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … 6819115078In order to run a Pentium like this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … 6819116401You’ll need a lower-end chipset board, and the only decent one meeting your spec for now is a reference Intel board:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … 6813121503Personally… I would go for the i3 on one of those ASRocks. If you factor in the cost of a GPU (the Pentium doesn’t have one), and that 1600mHz memory is a bit cheaper now (not that you couldn’t run 1600mHz memory on a 1333mHz slot), you come out at almost the same price.
Jesse, I think he’s asking for Mini-ITX, not Micro-ATX.
Indeed, I’ve never seen a socket 1155 mini itx board with PCI either.
Marian has PCIe cards now, but they’re pricey. Seraph AD2 is €389.
Most on-board audio supports 192k nowadays, but even with tilt correction it’s not 100% accurate.
///Leif
If you’re got the cash laying around, I can *warmly* recommend the MOTU 828 mk3.
It’s pricey, but it’s an incredible sound card. External (1U rackmount), supports both USB 2 and Firewire, it has a crapload of inputs and outputs, the outputs are DC coupled, and it of course supports 192 KHz!
There’s a smaller, slightly cheaper version too — MOTU UltraLite mk3, which has 8 inputs and 8 dc coupled outputs.
The 828 mk3 is $750, and the UltraLite mk3 is $550. In this case, you get what you pay for, though.
…unlike for example the RME HDSPe AIO, which is $800, PCI express, but NO dc coupled outputs, which means tilt correction is necessary, and tilt correction isn’t perfect. I bought one of these, and actually sent it back! I rarely send something back (usually not worth the time), but this time I did it on principle. But, you can have my MOTU when you pry it from my cold, dead hands 😉
///Leif
These are indeed ‘one hell of a soundcard’ products, but unfortunally i do not have the money for it 🙁
(my wife always take the money i have ‘laying around’ 🙄 😉 )I made my decision, i go for a micro ATX board (1155 socket) with one PCI slot and a Juli@ card.
The processor will be a i3 or G620 processor.
I try to place the soundcard vertically with a pci extension card or cable in the micro ATX case.
The case needs to be as compact as possible.Thanks guys for all the input!
Of course can you all leave additional info in this thread.
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