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  • #17162
    manasseh
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    Hi,

    I would like to know if someone has the same pre-ringing artifacts when a rimshot/snare is pushed through the clipper on the FM module (quality: High)
    Any sharp mid heavy transient gets smeared and almost sounds reversed, not unlike some linear phase artifacts.
    The effect doesn’t happen when quality is set to ‘low’ or ‘very low’.

    here a small clip example:
    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1nRnYymoiO1tpTjyKSF87i_XyIiVjrUmf/view

    Many thanks

    #17163
    Milky
    Keymaster

    What preset are you using? Does the effect change with different presets? Try it with “Reference Settings”, as this is the least processed preset.

    #17164
    MrKlorox
    Participant

    Really? I was under the impression 2B and 5B Protection were the least processed and most transparent. Reference keeps the original color of the sound, but it’s not that transparent.

    #17165
    Milky
    Keymaster

    Leif’s own description of the Reference Settings preset.

    “This is the preset the Breakaway Core algorithm was created with. This preset is as transparent and neutral as they come — great on its own, or as a starting point for any custom sound.

    Imagine that you’re designing an audio processor, either digital or analog. Before there is a user interface, you must still choose correct component values to make the circuit behave, and sound good. When that’s done, you decide which parameters should be user-adjustable and which should stay hard-coded. The user-adjustable ones must have a default value, which should ideally match what you came up with as sounding good while writing the algorithm. Those are the Reference Settings, and that is this preset.”

    #17166
    MrKlorox
    Participant

    If you read the description of the 2B/5B Protection presets, you’ll see they’re even less processed. Give them a try. They’re mostly clippers/limiters, though the multiband and agc can be driven further if you change it.

    #17167
    manasseh
    Participant

    I’m using the 2B Protection preset, without any gain reduction happening at the AGC or multiband modules. All the enhancements are off including phase delay and bassEFX.
    I’ve tried the Reference preset (and raised multiband threshold to max. so only the clipper has effect) and the results are the same – the transient still has this pre-ringing reverse smearing happening, as soon as there is some lighter FM clipper action.

    I’ve to troubleshoot using different drivers than ASIO, different buffer sizes, and sample rates and it makes no difference.

    • This reply was modified 1 year ago by manasseh.
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