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is there a pure limiter preset in breakaway live? pick a db level and nothing gets over that no matter what, rest is left as is??
also..on a side note…why does breakaway live generate noise? if i use one of the NR presets and turn down the range and power it helps but it’s still there. and if i use a diff preset that isn’t NR and i don’t want to turn the range and power down that low, i’ll get audible noise..
DjSmooth, the Protection Limit preset is mostly pure limiter, but it does bring in agc and compression if the input level is so high that limiting would be excessive.
Regarding noise, I haven’t noticed this myself — is it boosting noise from your sound card input, or truly generating noise itself? Please try with a Breakaway Pipeline as a source (but use the same output sound card) and let me know if there’s an improvement.
///Leif
i’ll have to try those suggestions.
thanks
I’m not able to set input 1 to line 1 (Breakaway Pipeline)
I’ve tried everything (Wave, DS, KS). Played with sound card settings, etc.. nothing
Only thing that works is DS type for input 1; Line in on my incoming sound card.
I’ve tried the breakaway pipeline configuration but I have no idea what to change in there.
The default setting for input 1 seems to be WAVE as the type and Breakaway Pipeline as the setting. I can’t get that to work.
My signal coming from my Dj mixer is connected to the Line In port on a Realtek sound card (it’s imbedded in the motherboard and came with the computer).
My output is going out of the RCA connectors of a Creative Labs USB soundcard.
I should mention that this is a fairly beefy HP desktop with quad core processor and 8 gigs of ram. It’s running Windows 7 RC 64 bit.
I think the noise problem is either your DJ mixer or the Realtek on-board audio.
Try setting Input in BA to Line 1, and then install Winamp (or another MP3 player) and have it play into Line 1 as well. That way you get an all digital path for testing, and you can see if you still hear the noise.
If you don’t hear the noise, that means it wasn’t coming from BA, but from the audio input, which means it could be the Realtek input itself or the DJ mixer or anything else in the chain.
Have you enabled the Noise Reduction checkbox by the way?
///Leif
As I stated earlier, I can’t set Breakaway Pipeline as Input 1.
If I do that, I don’t get any errors but I also get no activity in the Breakaway Live program.
How exactly do I tell your software that Breakaway Pipeline = the line in on my Realtek on-board audio card? Like the EXACT steps? 🙂
Oh and I don’t see a "noise reduction checkbox" anywhere.
This program is great if it works but there should be a comprehensive users guide that’s available for it. Something that walks you through what each one of the presets do, how to configure the Breakaway Pipeline, etc. etc.
Breakaway Pipeline IS NOT the line input on your sound card. The whole point is to take Line Input out of the loop, so we can figure out where the noise that was bothering you is coming from.
Breakaway Pipeline is used to digitally connect to other programs on your computer, instead of using a sound card.
Are you running Breakaway Live 0.90.79? If not, please download it – it’s linked from the forum, from one of the threads on the top.
Yes, Breakaway Live needs documentation. I’m working on it. 🙂
///Leif
yes, running the latest version of breakaway live, the new 90.79.
i’ve tried every combination for input 1 i can think of; spent a LOT of time messing around with it.
the ONLY combination that works at the moment is setting it to DS (direct sound) as the type and line in from the Realtek sound card as the source.
the program seems to indicate that the "default" is WAVE as the type and Breakaway Pipeline 1 as the input. am I wrong on that???
i need help on what to set this too. the noise is definitely from the program. if i bypass the processing, no noise.
I won’t dance around the facts.
The noise is from your soundcard and from your DJ mixer. analog audio devices just have noise, period. it’s just that some of them have less noise than others.
You can optimize the signal to noise by having proper levels with any gear though, so that’s part of the battle. But with your onboard audio there’s only so much you can do, and I bet it’s not much.
You’ll have to get a more professional souncard (and I’m not talking about a Soundblaster X-Fi here, that would be just as bad as what you already have). The benefit other than way better signal to noise, is that you’ll end up with way better sound quality too.
It’s not the Pioneer Mixer. The onboard sound card being the culprit, I can buy that. I’m thinking of trying breakaway live on a diff PC to see how that does.
But, the main question still hasn’t been answer. What is supposed to be my setting for Input 1??
Is it the line in on a sound card or is it breakaway pipeline????
Breakaway can add a lot of gain boost to the incoming audio — 30dB in extreme cases. So, if your input noise level is at -60, you won’t hear it in bypass, but through processing the noise would be at -30, and that’s very much audible. On the other hand, if your input noise level is -90 (very possible with good analog equipment / sound card), then even with 30dB boost and no noise reduction, output noise is "only" at -60, which is actually not much. With noise reduction on it would drop another 12dB down to -72 which is usually perfectly acceptable.
I have personally set Breakaway Live up at a restaurant, using VIA Onboard sound on an Asus P5KPL-AM motherboard and a Celeron 430 single core CPU, and had NO noise problem whatsoever! It required grounding the mixer and computer together, but once that was done, no problem at all.
You can find the noise reduction setting inside the "Settings" window.
What to set "Input" to depends on what you are doing at the moment.
To play audio from your line in, you would set Input to your sound card, preferably with "KS" as this yields the most stable stream and lowest latency.However, since we are tracking down a noise problem right now, we must take the line in out of the loop (to make sure it’s not the cause of the noise), so you need to select "Breakaway Pipeline 1" and play audio from a program on your computer, NOT your mixer, and see if you still hear the noise problem.
///Leif
My signal settings for Breakaway Live doesn’t look like that. I don’t have the noise reduction checkbox, I do have a bypass speakers option or something similar and I have a whole other piece off to the right with load, save, etc..
And I’m using the newest version of breakaway, the beta one
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