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  • #17347
    Buddy
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    Looking for 2 channel balanced Audio Input cards that are not a USB device.

    Also a 192k composite output card that are not a USB device.

    Thank you for your time!

    #17348
    Milky
    Keymaster

    So, if not USB how are you going to power this device? Are we talking a real PC motherboard with PCIe interface?

    #17349
    Buddy
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    yes, real computer mother board

    #17350
    Buddy
    Participant

    Let me say it this way

    Devices that connect via USB are great for what they are!

    The reason I am looking for some thing to plug into a mother board slot, PCI or PCIe slot

    is for reliability and less clutter. Most external devices, work well, but they have controls

    that wandering fingers mess with, while internal cards do not have this issue.

    #17565
    k.thelen
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    Unfortunately, the days of the ESI, Marian, etc. cards are well behind us. For years I kept up the search for motherboards with PCI slots so I could stick with the ‘tried and true’. But I, like most by now, finally had to surrender.

    The AudioScience ASI5810 is a short and low-profile PCIe card with 2 balanced inputs, 2 balanced outputs, and supports 192KHz output. But it’s spendy ($650, last I checked). And the driver can be a bit of a pain; I had a hard time getting the buffers set up in such a way where the jitter and latency were acceptable (though I was being rather particular; wanted a very low latency setup that would allow live monitoring, to replace a setup built around a Marian Trace Pro).

    Beyond that, the question isn’t ‘what can I get in a card’, the question is ‘what’s a better/more suitable USB device’. As in, one with no knobs, buttons, etc. One that’s reliable. One that performs well, and needs no modifications.

    Angry Audio has their U.192. I haven’t tried one, mostly because they’re $850-ish. But I hear they’re a good option if you need something that Just Works.

    A few years ago, Leif and one of his collaborators were testing piles of cheap Amazon gear and discovered a particular Chinese CM6631A-based USB board that worked remarkably well (basically a knockoff of the Sanskrit interfaces, IIRC). Dual output, unbalanced, very flat 192KHz output. I’ve built a bunch of rigs for non-latency-sensitive situations around them. If you want cheap and reliable, it’s still the ticket. There was a thread on the “I Love Broadcast Audio Processing” Facebook group about them.

    But, note that I said ‘non-latency-sensitive’. Those have no inputs, so you have to use a separate device if you need analog or AES inputs. And, as you can imagine, the amount of overall latency there can get pretty big. Many people don’t care. But if you’re in the “we need to hear the output in our headphones” camp, your options are gonna be limited.

    The typical BaOne, Stereo Tool, etc. rig for transmitter site use these days seems to be a small PC or NUC, with a USB output device like the one I mentioned, and some sort of IP-based input. As for me, I want to be where the affordable hardware is, and that means embracing the trend.

    If you find a device that has no knobs/buttons/etc., a pair of balanced inputs, good 192KHz analog outputs, and is affordable – basically a U.192 without the sticker shock – please follow up here, I’d love to hear about it!

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