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Hello everybody and happy New Year,
I recently installed BreakawayOne on my streaming (1 core HD), I like very much Leif preset (it's the one I'm using now). I also tried Zinthos, the Brazil CHR Jovem Pan and Hitradio 2017 (all brought here by krita-chan: they all sound very aggressive and with too much deep bass, but what I want to achieve is getting my stream to sound louder. Where do I have to modify to get that?
As an example here is where you can find my streaming: http://www.funkycorner.it or a direct stream at 192 AAC+ http://andromeda.shoutca.st:8411/stream and here what I mean when I say I want to sound louder: http://178.32.62.172:8911/index.html?sid=1
Any help will be appreciated 🙂Usually the first thing to try to adjust (for an HD core) is the Final Limiter Drive.
Both your station, and "Radio Energy", are around -7 LKFS loudness. Your station sounds more consistent on average, and less processed. "Radio Energy" has some tracks that aren't as loud, and sometimes there's extremely excessive amount of treble loudness, especially during station imaging.
Personally I'd be finding ways to increase time spent listening. Part of that goal is turning down your loudness and improve the quality of your sonic signature even more. -7 LKFS is very loud. 😉 Borderline extreme. People have volume controls, and that preset already has great consistency without needing to rely on peak control.
What you might try is creating a few minutes of audio from several songs, and run it through BreakawayOne (on a path that's not on-air obviously) with the current settings, recording the output. Then also record the same "clips", with Final Limiter Drive set 3dB less, 6dB less (if possible), and even 3dB more. Then you'll need to loudness normalize the individual recordings so they are the same loudness. You can do this with the latest Foobar2000 easily by using ReplayGain (it's using RG2 now) to scan the tracks as individual tracks, and then applying ReplayGain directly onto the files. Do it on copies of the original processed recordings of course.
Then… let your listeners, or perhaps a group of trusted ears that contact you about when you''re sounding great or not, vote for which ones they think sound the best.
I can already tell you what way that's going to go. 😉
Hi Jesse,
Thanks for the music and for your deep analysis. I'll try to give practice to all your suggestions, but as far as leveling individual records it's something I do from the beginning, one by one, all of my 5000 tracks in the playlist (they are at -3db). Most depends on the recording quality, being from 70s and 80s… (maybe I should need the "Undo" technology from Omnia 9X2, but at the moment I can't afford it…)No, it's just something broken with the forum (clicking on the "Approve" button) that I need to fix manually, and I haven't had the time yet. It's just that something you typed triggered the spam detection (probably the links and where they are in the message too). It's only happened twice to real messages so far so I've been kinda procrastinating on it hehe. But admins and mods can see this topic.
The reason I brought up loudness normalization was for comparing different audio processing, you need to compare at equal loudness.
Loudness isn't the same as signal level at all. So it's fine that you've adjusted the peaks of your library to be the same, but the loudness can still vary wildly.
I'm a member of EBU's P/LOUD group, and helped to create the international loudness measurement standard.
I had a little time to look into this today. Found out that one of the anti-spam mods relies on having an optional feature enabled on the forum that we weren't using. I turned it on, and suddenly I can approve "spam" posts. All 3-ish that ever happened. Yaay. 😛
Thank you, Jesse.
I'm trying now a modified version of Amsterdam with increasing in Stereo enhancer (from 48 to 55), Brilliance (from 68 to 72), the Final Limiter is set to 0.00 (it was -1.50), Hd treble (from -1.5 to -0.3) and Bass Clip Tresh (from -6 to -5). There is something doesn't convince me, still too much trebles?
Hi Plauri,
[quote author=plauri link=topic=5380.msg19058#msg19058 date=1484485394]
I'm trying now a modified version of Amsterdam with increasing in Stereo enhancer (from 48 to 55), Brilliance (from 68 to 72), the Final Limiter is set to 0.00 (it was -1.50), Hd treble (from -1.5 to -0.3) and Bass Clip Tresh (from -6 to -5). There is something doesn't convince me, still too much trebles?
[/quote]Increasing brilliance, and increasing HD treble, will both *increase* treble. Amsterdam is very bright already — try turning them the other way. 🙂
///Leif
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