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Hello everyone and especially Leif 🙂,
Last week we’ve purchased a version of BBP for our radio station. First of all, I have to say; my compliments!
As we are a local radio station, this means we have to deal with a lot of different programs/formats. From ‘Opera’, ‘talk-programs’ up to ‘hard-rock’.
Of course it’s extremely complex for any sound-processor to handle all this different formats, but I have to say; BBP does the job amazingly well! No matter what sound you send into it – loud/calm and even much equalizing differents in source-materials, BBP takes care of it all.There is only one thing I would appriciate. An option to send less high frequencies into the clipper. On the spectrum anylizer… nothing wrong! Really loud, yet no overshoots at all (important!). But when you listen, you really can hear that the compressed high frequencies are ‘on the edge’. Even though I’d be really carefull with the ‘final drive’. For pop/rock stations, thats really great, but for opera/classic music …
Just because we have to deal with so much different formats, we have to compromise. Thats why I’d really like to have this option. Less ‘scream’ (just a little more headroom) in the high fequencies without ‘touching’ the rest of the sound. I really think this can be done with BBP! 🙂
Regards,
Ivo
I agree with the need for a treble adjustment after the multiband and before the final… whatever. 😉 Leif does too, so we’ll see what comes with the products made from the new framework.
When you guys see what is possible with that, you’re going to flip your wig. It’s so seriously cool, and I can’t tell you like 99.9% of it which sucks. But the time will come. 8)
Thanks Jesse, that is good to hear! In the past I have avoided bringing up this issue, mostly in deference to Leif’s opinion that including EQ adjustments would jeopardize his future plans for the product.
But in fact, I did find Breakaway’s usefulness at this point to be rather limited, because the highs are just too bright and it gives no way to adjust them. To be honest, I was a little puzzled that several different preset designers all arrived at the same bright sound. But I’m glad the issue is "on the table" now, and I will definitely take another look at Breakaway once this issue is addressed.
[quote author=”Leah Fortescue”]because the highs are just too bright and it gives no way to adjust them.[/quote]
One reason I settled on using the Reference Classical preset. No apparent boost in the high end.[quote author=”sneradio”][quote author=”Leah Fortescue”]because the highs are just too bright and it gives no way to adjust them.[/quote]
One reason I settled on using the Reference Classical preset. No apparent boost in the high end.[/quote]mind sharing the rest of your settings?
Some of the presets that have been removed, and are accessible by altering Breakaway’s INI file, were relatively low in treble. Like my wonderful Rusticity ’73 preset that almost nobody voted for which is why it was removed.
Personally I would make the preset dropdown scrollable, so that nothing has to be removed, but the new framework changes everything. Looking to the future. 🙂
[quote author=”timmywa”]mind sharing the rest of your settings?[/quote]
All default except
Power: 65
Bass boost: +5I totally agree on the better ‘high-frequencies-handling’ when using the ‘classic’ preset. I’ve tried it before and I have to say that those frequencies are much better to listen to.
But for my station, the preset is not ‘steady’ enough. It doesn’t compromise in loudness or equalizer settings as you send it into the input. And so you’ll hear every single difference in source material. That’s what makes it not usefull for me. Don’t get me wrong, I believe for some stations it’s really good, but just not for me.Beside that, it doesn’t have the option of ‘noise gate’ which I find very usefull when having a ‘talk-show’ for example. Especially when having a telephone interview.
I know I’m not easy to satisfy, I know. But as I’ve said it before, our station just have to compromise between much different programs/formats. It just isn’t that easy….. But BBP is still one of the best sounding fm-processors (and really the best software processor I know!!), so I don’t forget about that. Just a little less high frequencies into the clipper…….. (Leif, did your read?) haha 😉
The new Zenith is even better for broadcasting, without changing the sound in an undesirable way for the original goals I had for that, my 1st Breakaway preset. So make sure you’re using one of the current betas listed in the sticky topics on the top of this forum. 🙂
That being said… I soooooooo can’t wait for you guys to hear Passive Aggressor. It’s sort of like this nice slow completely open sounding preset, but the loudness and spectral balance is almost totally based on density. Sort of like the easiest to listen to very dynamic old-school processing, set as slow (or even slower) that you could ever do, and not only having it always doing the perfect balance based on the loudness of the spectrum areas… but having it also be able to eat transients in a very fast yet musical way, only when it’s really really needed.
Really, it sounds more open than Reference. 😀 The one thing that stands out in my mind when I listen to it, is that it’s very enjoyable and very easy to listen to. It’s my favorite preset and my favorite processing sound I’ve ever heard. Bar none. I hope you will enjoy it.
I’m down with that…so, is there a ballpark date for when this will be available in our favorite audio processors? 8)
@Boki > no, I didn’t try so far, but I sure will 🙂
@Jesse > What your are telling makes me curious. Passive Aggressor: An open preset, easy to listen to, but with a density you dream about. The last thing means a better mask of the noise in talking s/n ratio, which means a few km’s/miles more range of the fm-transmitter. Those factors seem to me like a very complicated combination, but sure not impossible. I can’t wait to hear it 🙂
Another practical question >> When it’s finished, how can I add it into my currenct (activated) version of BBP?
Ivo
[quote author=”sneradio”][quote author=”timmywa”]mind sharing the rest of your settings?[/quote]
All default except
Power: 65
Bass boost: +5[/quote]Thanks!
[quote author=”Ivo”]…Passive Aggressor…..
Another practical question >> When it’s finished, how can I add it into my currenct (activated) version of BBP?[/quote]
The problem is:
It (Passive Aggressor preset development) is already finished.
Jesse has been teasing us here for months with this "legendary" preset.But it seems that we have to wait for new Breakaway versions (1.0 release ?) using this new framework structure (Jesse talked about).
And obvious Leif is so busy that we have to be patient.
If Leif had done what I have suggested him months ago (to clone himself),
Passive Aggressor would already be here !
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