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Has anyone checked out this meter?
I think they’re trying to turn the loudness war into the dynamics war. 🙂
Scott
The Orban meter is a loudness meter. This is a DYNAMICS meter. The two are completely opposite 🙂.
///Leif
TT DR is also a loudness meter (just rms) and a true peak meter, which is how it gets it’s realtime dynamic range metering. 🙂 the non-realtime DR value is a bit more complicated, but still uses basic RMS.
I know they could do a lot better with a slightly more complicated method. 😉
I find one problem with it. I spend more time looking at the meter than carefully listening to and finishing my mix. 🙂
Jesse, I think they have it conforming to the K Scale as well.
Scott
This is Belinda Carlisle being Plutonium’ed by Breakaway:
Seems she scores a 6 which is RED. 🙂
This meter sure takes its share of screen real estate.
Back to some real work now.
Scott
Okey how do you jus the plugin ?
mpxtool l> r out and then ?? whits programma is running the vst plugin ?greats
Morsink,
[quote author=”Morsink”]Okey how do you jus the plugin ?
mpxtool l> r out and then ?? whits programma is running the vst plugin ?
[/quote]I run the AES Out of a playout system into the AES In of a PC I have Breakaway installed on, then AES out of that PC into a Digital Workstation which is hosting the VST plugin and monitoring the input live.Maybe there is something that hosts VSTs as a standalone with an input and output that you could use. I’m sure someone will know of one.
Leif,
[quote author=”Leif”]Nice one, Scotty! Try it with "New York" 😀. [/quote]Getting it now. 🙂Same song, roughly same spot, though it didn’t matter much with this preset, this time with New York.
Definately a RED score. 🙂
Scott
quote :Same song, roughly same spot, though it didn’t matter much with this preset, this time with New York.😆 Sounds like the preset is working perfectly then 😉.
///Leif
Okey works nice:
3FM
[quote author=”ScottyJames”]Jesse, I think they have it conforming to the K Scale as well.[/quote]
It’s not, because K-System has a unity and above unity. For K-14… the average level you’re seeing at -14dB should actually be at 0dB. 😉
Also, the TT-DR meter’s average is simple RMS, and it’s 3dB too high!!! There’s a pretty healthy discussion of this on a forum I frequent right now, where Bob Katz is chiming in. So it’s decidedly not K-System scaled OR even if it was, it wouldn’t be compliant either way.
Also it’s worth noting that with all of the supposed effort TT guys put into researching this, that they…. as Bob put it…. went against the grain of almost 80 years of precedent – in making it read 3dB too high.
Me and Leif have something coming out soon that is going to change all doubts about what a proper K-System meter should be. 8)
‘Sup guys!
Thought I’d give you a not-so-sneak preview of the next version of MpxTool:
What’cha think? 🙂
///Leif
I admire the concept, but I question this statement on their web site:
"As soon as you compress the music too much, the control room becomes too loud. Instead of lowering the loudness knob on the studio monitors, simply compress a little less. The loudness knob stays at the reference position. This idea is based on the Dolby standard as used in the film industry, which also uses a fixed monitoring level."
The problem with that is movies keep getting louder every year, and movie theatres keep installing bigger and better audio systems to match. Even children’s movies like "Harry Potter" often have action scenes with explosions and other sound effects played loud enough to cause hearing damage — and due to the fixed Dolby level, movie theatres can’t turn the volume down. And if they did, then the quiet dialogue scenes would become too quiet.
And in the music biz, many rock singers and musicians have severe hearing damage due to years (even decades) of performing, so they would WANT the control room monitors to be excessively loud. 😉
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