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May 5, 2021 at 12:35 pm #16477DainerasParticipant
I found that many users experiencing inconvenience because BreakawayOne has no instructions. All clients must spend many time to find acceptable decisions, but probably it doesn’t meant right way… On this forum sow explanations, that creator or creators are very busy.
But actually it is business and product must contain manual.
Many markets has user rights, and all talking about same – manual must be… as example EU has DIRECTIVE:
https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=CELEX:01999L0044-20111212
here Article 2 point 5 says “This shall apply equally if the product, intended to be installed by the consumer, is installed by the consumer and the incorrect installation is due to a shortcoming in the installation instructions.”
installation in this case means that sett it up as whole solution, because at least one wrong setting interpretation could lead terrible results.
Actually each country has additionally laws who protect users, some of them forever.
in many cases FM counts last decade… Lets make last mile with more quality 🙂May 6, 2021 at 2:10 am #16478pos1ParticipantSince the official version does not provide deeper tweaking on the settings of the agc, multiband and final clipper section, anyone with basic knowledge in the field of FM production should have no problems with setup. This application is not even intended for those who are new to the term broadcast processing. The installation instructions and the first setup were explained very well by the author through youtube clips.
Leif once stated that the application was made with the intention of not tweaking much on it, and to get a decent sound.
As there is no possibility to legally access attack / relase, ratio, band mix and similar settings, then there is nothing to explain. And if you want to have all the settings available then you buy the hardware, and with it you get the manual! Of course it costs 10x.May 6, 2021 at 10:53 am #16479DainerasParticipantpos1,
Thanks for Your reply. Agree it is hard to explain compression or similar settings, but would be nice to know more specific BreakawayOne options.
as example can’t find information for:
Processor-> Misc-> I/O -> L/R Output – “Tilt Safety (RTZ):”
Processor-> Misc-> I/O -> L/R Output – “Tilt Compensation:”
Processor-> Misc-> I/O -> L/R Output – “Sub Level:” – more or less it’s clear, anyway…
Program / module Block diagram.
would be more silly to expect Preset.amx tune descriptions.
little bit wonder that need Pipeline or hardware (no inner way) from FM processor transmit to Pass-through.By the way:
What stdin stdout encoders works with BreakawayOne?
Do there are any good quality AAC encoders? enc_aacplus.exe is not a good solution. I believe that most users could pay extra cost for good quality AAC+ encoder.
Do there are any PCM encoders?
What best practice stream to DAB?May 6, 2021 at 1:31 pm #16481pos1Participantfor some reason i don’t see my post posted (maybe because of youtube links) i try to reply later
May 6, 2021 at 1:33 pm #16483pos1ParticipantTilt is well explained in the instructions for the old BA broadcast soft. In short you need to be able to view the demodulated MPX on an oscilloscope to adjust this well. It is ideal to see a square on an oscilloscope. But due to the nonlinearity of the sound card and the transmitter modulator, this is often not the case. So the correction is done via Tilt Compensation until a square is indicated on the oscilloscope. Why does this matter? Because it affects the occurrence of overshoots in the modulation process. If you do not have adequate equipment, there is a possibility of improvisation. You turn on the square generator while looking at the deviation meter of the transmitter. You make a correction until you get the lowest deviation value. For a similar reason, eq correction is done. But for her, owning a spectrum analyzer or oscilloscope is mandatory.
this also applies to Processor-> Misc-> I/O ->MPX and Processor-> and Misc-> I/O -> L/R Output (next is stereo encoder..)
Processor-> Misc-> I/O -> L/R Output – “Sub Level”: injection l-r (more less l/R difference on final out)
May 6, 2021 at 1:34 pm #16484pos1ParticipantI didn’t understand the issue with passtrough, but explanation about how to use it is on youtube
The process goes:
1.Pass-through (original unprocessed material)
2.encoding (FLAC if you have enough bandwidth)
3.ip transport
4.BAONE streamreciever (on RX site)
5. Processing BAO (RX site)
6. ON AIRI use BAO primarily to generate MPX, so I don’t have much experience with stream encoder capabilities. The MP3 codec that is an integral part of BAO sounds good, and related to PCM you have the option of using FLAC. It’s not the same as PCM but it sounds just as good!
Related to AAC + I used an external application intended for the stream (I will not advertise it but it is very popular). The internal aac + (came with app) at 64kbps as well as the aac at 128kpbs sounded worse than the BAO with enc_aacplus.exe.
I note once again that aac + at 128Kbps doesn’t make sense because given the limitations it sounds just as good / bad as at 64kbps. Regular AAC on BAO (instaled from the same package as enc_aacplus.exe) at 128Kbps sounds decent. Maybe there are better encoders but I haven’t had a chance to try them out.
In the future, I place my hopes in xHE-AAC. I’ve listened to samples at very low bitrates, and the results are promising.greeting!
May 6, 2021 at 1:40 pm #16485pos1ParticipantPS
First post was blocked because of YT links so:
see “BreakawayOne typical FM + Streaming + STL setup” about passtroug is on (13:28)Tilt Compensation is on YT “baone behringer mpx” (10:10)
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Warning to anyone who thinks to use behringer umc hd card for MPX. For some reason (probably poor power filtering) the card has nasty interference from 57KHz up to 100KHz. It is similar with scarlett 3gen!June 15, 2023 at 10:17 am #17225BuddyParticipantGood Day All:
Is there a way to clone a copy of an operational Breakaway One audio processor?
I wish to have a second computer setup exactly the same as the operational unit.
I understand the mac address will be different and there will have to be a second license for this unit to operate, the cost is not the issue. The issue is having both audio processors to sound the same without having to invest many hours going back and forth between them to get every setting the same!
Thank for you time!
June 15, 2023 at 3:53 pm #17226MilkyKeymasterIf you use the BaRemote program, you can export the configuration “ini” files in Common > System > System Information > Backup Configuration.zip. This will produce a zip file of all the current settings (you get to option to specify where to save it). These files/folders by default actually live in {drive letter}/Users/{username}/AppData/Local/BreakawayOne.
So, to duplicate BA1 on another PC, here’s what I would do.
On “Master PC”
1) Export the zip file and copy it via USB or network to a temp folder on PC 2On “Slave PC”
1) Install fresh copy of Breakaway One
2) Export the default zip file so that you have a point to return to if things go wrong.
3) Copy the unzipped files from “Master” into the {drive letter}/Users/{username}/AppData/Local/BreakawayOne folder
4) Launch BA1. It should start and have the settings from PC1, but it will be running in demo mode because the licence will not match the MAC address. -
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