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Hi Guys!
Breakaway 1.02 Alpha 5 (or Release Candidate 1) is ready for public testing!
http://www.claessonedwards.com/alpha/breakaway_setup_alpha_5.exe
Changes from version 1.01a:
Version 1.02:
* Digitally Signed Pipeline Driver – Now works in Vista 64-bit
* DirectSound support – drastically reduced delay in Vista
* Breakaway Audio processing core – separate gating thresholds for input agc and multiband
* Breakaway Audio Processing core – Reference Setting and Reference Heavy Band 6 thresholds adjusted downwards (1.5dB) for smoother, more natural high-end
* Adaptive Sample Rate converter – overflow (crash bug) fixed
* Adaptive Sample Rate converter – cleaner re-synchronization after system-overload induced loss of sync
* Kernel Streaming engine – USB sound card compatibility improved
* Audio engine – buffer sizes optimized to match windows system timers (for example 480 or 441 samples per block rather than 512),
allowing lower latency (delay) and less safety buffering
* Wizard now auto-detects presence of DirectSound 8, and uses DS as Safe Mode if DS8 present, WaveOut otherwise
* Child Process timeout lengthened from 30 seconds to 2 minutes (except in test mode), to prevent timeout during Vista bootup
on heavily loaded systems (Error: Child process not responding)
* Suspend/Resume behaviour improved – longer delay (15 seconds instead of 2 seconds) before restarting audio engine
* Pipeline floating point bugcheck fixed (compatibility problem with AIMP player)Please try it out, and report any problems in this thread.
If we don’t find any showstopper problems, this version can go live.
Thank you 🙂.
///Leif
awesome! hey could u explain a couple things for me leif? these changes, what are they?
* Breakaway Audio processing core – separate gating thresholds for input agc and multiband
* Breakaway Audio Processing core – Reference Setting and Reference Heavy Band 6 thresholds adjusted downwards (1.5dB) for smoother, more natural high-end-the gating thresholds, is there an audible difference w/ this change?
-and the thresholds for band 6 (treble); im guessing this isnt somehting i could have changed w/ the sliders without effecting the other bands. I think It sounds less compressed and natural. My question though; a basic one, what does the multiband limiter do? its cutting frequencies right? when i see the meter near -6 is it cutting? and does it add db when the meter is below 0?
thanks alot, and im looking forward to more updates.-dankNugz
Hi Leif,
Just installed 1.02 on my Vista laptop, and my first impression is that the audio is "cleaner" on the Reference Heavy preset. Thanks for the upgrade, I will play with it a while, and report back!
Steve
When installing the new version, are you supposed uninstall the current version, and then install the new one?
The reason I asked is initailly I didnt bother uninstalling, and my laptop blue screened on me twice. I have since uninstalled and reinstalled from scratch so hopefully all will be well. ( I also got some childs not responding error or something..sorry not very technical)!!!
Also, it may well be my imagination but the Radio Magic preset sounds a bit crisper at the top end? Lurvely. 😀
installed, testing.
I got away with tinybuffer on the previous version. now, running the test, I had to set it to small buffer. not too big a deal I guess. that’s on a p4, 2.4 ghz.
more tests will have to wait for me to actually have my tunes on that computer again. I seem to have misplaced that drive! 🙂
Hi guys!
Thanks for the feedback.
Hydro, the gating threshold change won’t cause an audible difference yet — they’re still set the same for all presets, it’s more of a framework change to support future improvements 🙂.
The Band 6 threshold on the other hand does make an audible difference in all presets based on Reference Settings (quite a few). It makes the Band 6 AGC attack sooner, and thus reduces the amount of energy in this band. Band 6 contains the high treble information, and it was simply too loud before – sound is much more well balanced now. It’s indeed not adjustable from the main sliders, it’s an internal control.
If the AGC, Multiband or Limiters meters are showing -6, that stage is indeed attenuating. Nothing "cuts" – it’s a gradual gain adjustment, boosting slightly or attenuating slightly.
HighPSI, thank you! I like this preset much better too now. It took quite a while to realize that something needed to be done – I guess better late then never 🙂.
RichardJames, you’re not supposed to have to uninstall — I don’t know what happened there. I haven’t been able to reproduce it unfortunately. Also, I was hoping I had obliterated the "child process not responding bug" already! Did you see that with the new version or with the old version?
For even more crispness on the Radio Magic preset, try turning Speed down a bit! It’s counter-intuitive, but it really opens up that preset.Lane, the buffer sizes in the wizard have changed completely, so they’re not really comparable to the old version. However, if you go to the expert configuration you can set up any buffer size you like – the previous version (on Tiny) used block size 128, 6 buffers, for both input and output.
Thanks for all the feedback, keep it coming 🙂.
///Leif
Hi, I get the error on the new version, but only on initial boot up. I do have some antivirus software that takes an age too boot up, so dont know if that is slowing things down. I am running XP, using an AMD processor, and interfacing with OTS using the breakaway pipeline.
Was running stable from about 2pm yesterday, but woke up to find laptop frozen.
Has been running stable since 6am this morning, about 3 hours so far.
If no-one else doesnt report any issues, it may just be my crummy laptop, although the previous version was running for well over 24 hours without a crash or freeze. I may try downgrading again if laptop crashes again, and see what happens. Will keep you updated.
Rich.
Just a note about the latest beta – I loaded it last night without uninstalling v.1.1 and all is well, thus far. I’m running XP Pro Sp-3 with 2GB RAM on a first generation Centrino notebook (1.4Ghz) and I’m impressed to be noticing an improvement in the sound output relative to Breakaway 1.1. Thank you, Leif!
Great news now been up and running for 12 hours with no crashes. 🙂
Sounds like good news!
Right now, the timeout for the child process launch is 2 minutes. Once the Breakaway main process (user interface) starts, it attempts to launch a copy of itself as a child process, to run the audio engine as a separate realtime priority process. If this second copy does not respond within 2 minutes, up comes the Child Process Not Responding error.
If the system is non-responsive for 2 minutes during bootup, I’m not sure increasing the timeout further is the best solution.
Instead, try this workaround:
In the settings window (the one that comes up after you OK the Child Process error), disable Realtime Priority.
Without Realtime Priority enabled, Breakaway runs as a single process, and there won’t be a child process to cause problems. Unfortunately this means it does not run as realtime priority class, so you may have to increase buffer size — but you also might not. Worth a try.
///Leif
Thumbs up for the aimp2 fix. Downloading now to test it 🙂
Keep up the great work.Awesome Plugin!!! ive had this plugin now for about 6 months im an audiophile i love loud music and this plugin makes it louder and cleaner and doesnt distort my speakers! this new version does sound a bit more cleaner on reference. havent had any problems with child process errors yet (cross fingers) a question i have is there ever gonna be option for surround sound (5.1) as right now i have a Dolby digital Live sound card and play all my pc games thru my home theater system and currently i have to disable breakaway to get surround sound output from the game which means i have to go into Vista’s "great control panel" and switch default ouput annoying and no breakaway for games 🙁 ive tryed 2 channel and breakaway with crysis (pc game) and it makes game sounds with movie setting sound million times better!
oh yea and anyway to get breakaway on iphone? or ever thought about small inline external breakaway box? =) great job keep up goodwork ive told everyone i know about this plugin all who knows love it and could never go back!!Hi Leif,
didn’t had much time the last days but can report that the OtsAV problem ist still there.
6 hours it is fine, then the dropouts still happen.
But I think you already know that. We talked about it last week via PM.I don’t know anything about programming, so my feedback will not be technical, but here goes:
I’m running Vista Business with a Core 2 Duo 2.2 Ghz Centrino processor, 3.5G of RAM
Breakaway still crashes on recovery from hibernation. I’m pleased to report that the audio/video sync is very much improved with the new version. My computer’s soundcard has some latency on it anyway, so it’s not completely gone, but with casual viewing I can’t tell a difference between running and bypassed. I have an external soundcard that has no detectable latency on it, but I have not tried that yet. I, too, have had to increase my buffer size, but I see that this has already been explained.
For the most part I do my casual listening with the built-in laptop speakers, and Breakaway makes these perform much better than they do naked. When watching a movie, for example, I can barely hear without breakaway, but the audio is crisp and much louder with. Thanks!
Anything works just great on Vista x64…
While running the wizard it shows a weird soundcard "000.001d.0001.002.000.000" etc
select Save mode for this and you see the correct sound devices…
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