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May 24, 2010 at 6:22 pm #827X-HostedMember
Very strange problem here:
When i upgrade to BBP 0.90.95 there are very tiny little skips in my audio. When i remove everything and downgrade to BBP 0.90.77 it’s all fine again.
Settings:
Input: BBP Pipeline 1
Output: BBP Pipeline 2
(Internet broadcast only, encoder is feeded from BBP Pipeline 2)
Preset: Amsterdam
OS: Windows Server 2003
Playout App: SAM BroadcasterI noticed that 0.90.95 uses VAC 4.8 and 0.90.77 uses VAC 4.5. But when installing 0.90.95, it also upgrades the VAC. Is there any way of keeping VAC 4.5 and use BBP 0.90.95?
May 24, 2010 at 10:01 pm #10754JesseGMember[quote author=”X-Hosted”]I noticed that 0.90.95 uses VAC 4.8 and 0.90.77 uses VAC 4.5. But when installing 0.90.95, it also upgrades the VAC. Is there any way of keeping VAC 4.5 and use BBP 0.90.95?[/quote]
I have the Breakaway Pipeline installed with 1 "cable" for BAE, and I just use the regular VAC v4.9.0.1652 for the exact same reason. If your DPC latency gets nicked up at all, there’s a chance it’ll skip with the Breakaway version and here’s why…
If you compare the control panels for each, you’ll notice…
And there-in lies the problem. With the way Breakaway’s Adaptive SRC works, it’s taking care of under & over flows quite gracefully and transparently. VAC is attempting to handle this by just inserting blocks of digital silence, and it’s taking away Breakaway’s chance to do its thing properly. Not good. Leif has known about the problem for some time, and it will be corrected in an upcoming release I’m sure.
I think that the problem is relatively rare, since it’s dependent on the system having high CPU use and/or way-too-high DPC latency spikes, so… But yes, in those cases perhaps you can use that version of VAC I’m using. It will still have the potential issue with Windows 7 & multi-core CPUs that were fixed in the Breakaway version though, but that’s equally rare from what I remember so chances are one or the other is going to work properly for you.
May 28, 2010 at 6:15 pm #10755X-HostedMemberMy audio was suddenly skipping like mad for no reason with .95.
I checked the pipeline config and found this:
Pipeline 1 and 2 are for breakaway, pipeline 3 and 4 are dummy pipelines with audio i created to see if breakway was causing the problems. Clearly not, even the pipelines with just audio from winamp and no breakaway on them skip like mad.
There must be enough CPU power there:
May 28, 2010 at 11:41 pm #10756JesseGMemberHmm yep, then it’s most likely a DPC latency issue… or if it’s not then this would be even more interesting. 🙂
Can you try DPC Latency Checker on it? It should work on 2003…
http://www.thesycon.de/deu/latency_check.shtml
and see how high it spikes after a few minutes of testing.May 29, 2010 at 11:04 am #10757X-HostedMemberDPC Latency doesnt show anything special after a few mins:
I’m pretty sure that there is *something* like a bug in the new pipeline version. The skips only occour with the new pipeline version on the same system as i run .77 with 0 no skips on.
May 29, 2010 at 2:14 pm #10758BokiMemberYou’r on the edge…
Find out what makes DPC to be big like this. It must be under 500 always, even lower.
Check network adapters, disable them from Device manager. Disable pipelines … and check DPC again.
May 29, 2010 at 3:45 pm #10759greatstartMemberThis is how mine looks, and I’ve never had problems with skipping on 0.90.95:
May 30, 2010 at 12:25 am #10760Dr.JMemberI too think those results are too high. Here is mine running on a fairly minimal machine. It does jump up slightly beyond 500 on occasion, but that’s it.
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