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  • #515
    Anonymous
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    I have BBP 0.90.87 and sound card ESI JULI@ and often it makes certain noises as clack… cluck what it can be to blaim?

    I send also a file of sound in order to you hear it makes him in 1 second and in 10 second.
    The file is here http://rapidshare.com/files/292846201/problem_stvgr.mp3

    Thanks

    #8567
    Leif
    Keymaster

    What’s the CPU usage on the box? What buffer size are you running in BBP, and what hardware buffer size on the juli@?

    ///Leif

    #8568
    didac
    Participant

    [quote author=”stvgr”]I have BBP 0.90.87 and sound card ESI JULI@ and often it makes certain noises as clack… cluck what it can be to blaim?

    I send also a file of sound in order to you hear it makes him in 1 second and in 10 second.
    The file is here http://rapidshare.com/files/292846201/problem_stvgr.mp3

    Thanks[/quote]

    The problem is on BBP or BBP ASIO?

    #8569
    Anonymous
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    [quote author=”Leif”]What’s the CPU usage on the box? What buffer size are you running in BBP, and what hardware buffer size on the juli@?

    ///Leif[/quote]

    My CPU Intel Core 2 Duo E6750 @ 2.66Ghz
    CPU Buffer is 35% – 45%
    Juli@ Buffer is 256 sample

    With Digigram in the same computer not made this!

    [quote author=”didac”]The problem is on BBP or BBP ASIO?[/quote]

    Is BBP!

    #8570
    Leif
    Keymaster

    Juli@ buffer 256 may be too low. Try setting it to 1024 or 2048. Remember this buffer size does not change for different sample rates, so 2048 at 192000hz is equivalent to 512 at 48000hz.

    BBP isn’t a low latency processor no matter how you set up the sound card, so there’s no point trying to minimize the sound card buffer size — it just runs the risk of glitches.

    It could still be something else, but try this first.

    ///Leif

    #8571
    Anonymous
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    [quote author=”Leif”]Juli@ buffer 256 may be too low. Try setting it to 1024 or 2048. Remember this buffer size does not change for different sample rates, so 2048 at 192000hz is equivalent to 512 at 48000hz.

    BBP isn’t a low latency processor no matter how you set up the sound card, so there’s no point trying to minimize the sound card buffer size — it just runs the risk of glitches.

    It could still be something else, but try this first.

    ///Leif[/quote]

    That is to say should I use him in 192khz him I put in the 2048 samples if I understood rightly?

    #8572
    Anonymous
    Guest

    I made but the same again… what other it can be?

    #8573
    Leif
    Keymaster

    I’ve seen poorly behaving drivers cause problems like this on certain computers.. Especially WLAN cards often cause problems like this.

    Run the DPC latency checker from http://www.thesycon.de/deu/latency_check.shtml

    If you see any red bars, your computer has a driver problem, and such begins the tedious work of disabling hardware devices one after another (at your own risk!!) until the problem hopefully goes away.

    You may also want to simply try with a fresh windows install.

    Oh, and just to be sure it’s not BBP — try BBP ASIO for a while.

    ///Leif

    #8574
    Anonymous
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    [quote author=”Leif”]I’ve seen poorly behaving drivers cause problems like this on certain computers.. Especially WLAN cards often cause problems like this.

    Run the DPC latency checker from http://www.thesycon.de/deu/latency_check.shtml

    If you see any red bars, your computer has a driver problem, and such begins the tedious work of disabling hardware devices one after another (at your own risk!!) until the problem hopefully goes away.

    You may also want to simply try with a fresh windows install.

    Oh, and just to be sure it’s not BBP — try BBP ASIO for a while.

    ///Leif[/quote]

    I put DPC and it made me red clues as to me you said I removed card WIFI and me it shows these they is good clues?

    #8575
    Leif
    Keymaster

    Yes, all green is good!

    ///Leif

    #8576
    Anonymous
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    Leif yesterday I made bent with the oscilloscope and the JULI@ and the DIGIGRAM.
    What I understood they is that in air the DIGIGRAM plays better from the JULI@!
    What appearred to me curious they is that Tilt of JULI@ are -1 and Coeff 0
    and DIGIGRAM 3 and Coeff 13!!
    Very small divergences from the 0 that exist as prequalification in Breakaway!!!

    #8577
    Leif
    Keymaster

    From those numbers, I’d say Juli@ is the better card. However, both are close enough to 0 that it’s not much to worry about.

    ///Leif

    #8578
    Anonymous
    Guest

    According to the numbers I agree that the JULI@ they is better card of other sound echo of DIGIGRAM they is more Loudness.

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