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  • #746
    NorthSound
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    We are into a Telos Axia "powered" environment. At the end of the chain, we have an Axia node (box who receives Ethernet and gives analog and/or digital inputs/outputs). At the other hand, we have LiveWire driver, who can installed on a computer and work as a standard soundcard (wdm driver, i think). So The computer where broadcast is installed can receive input from this (via its Ethernet port) virtual soundcard (non asio) or feed audio to its input from audio repeater, with VAC or pipeline.

    The details for the driver: http://www.axiaaudio.com/components/default.htm#Driver
    And here is the manual: http://www.axiaaudio.com/manuals/files/ … indows.pdf

    Is this possible ?

    If i use standard version of Breakaway Broadcast, i will add about half second or so latency to the system.
    Any Thoughts ?

    Thank you,
    Dimitris.

    #10149
    JesseG
    Member

    It should work just fine. 8) Btw… jealous of your Axia. Before I got into mastering, we didn’t have that stuff in radio. Makes reconfiguring go from months of planning and work, to 5 minutes at a computer screen and 1 trip back & forth from the intended room of use.

    (or 5 minutes at a computer screen halfway around the world while a "lackie" plugs in the node for you)

    What a time to be doing radio engineering. 😀 😀

    #10150
    NorthSound
    Member

    Hi JesseG and thank you for your reply….
    It should work just fine , but how ? I cannot find how Breakaway Asio can accept input from a pipeline, only asio cards are in the list. Is there another way except the i/o configuration ? The LiveWire driver outputs to any available soundcard "seen" from windows operating system, so it can give sound to a BreakAway pipeline or vac (virtual audio cable). How can i "tell" breakaway asio to accept input from a pipeline? With BreakAway Broadcast its damned easy, i can select pipeline 1 from the pull down menu, but it adds some long latency to the system.
    Is there any suggestion for this ?

    Thank you,
    Dimitris.

    #10151
    bofh
    Member

    Hi Dimitris,

    There is an alpha version of the ASIO Axia Livewire driver available here:

    http://axiaaudio.com/release-notes/axia … e/download

    I’m currently using the WDM version however as I was having some issues with the sampling rate sounding off with the ASIO version and Breakaway.

    Here’s a screenshot of my settings:

    Cheers,

    Matt

    #10152
    JesseG
    Member

    Sometimes I get ahead of myself… my bad. Don’t have an AXIA, didn’t know that wasn’t public yet. Well, it is now. 😆

    #10153
    NorthSound
    Member

    Hi,

    OK, Axia Asio version up and running… How can i receive from Axia Asio driver, at the transmitters site (lets say), and output to a physical soundcard ? When i choose Axia Asio from the drop down menu, only the Axia "devices" are shown in the list.
    The "concept" is this: The livewire stream, leaves the studio via an Ethernet Radio, the other side is the transmitters site. There is a computer with an asio soundcard (breakaway capable one), and i want to feed Breakaway Asio from the Axia Asio Driver and give its output to a physical Asio (hardware) sound card to give it’s output to the transmitter …

    Any ideas ?
    Thank you.

    #10154
    bofh
    Member

    As far as I know, as long as you have your wireless ethernet radio setup too look like a "piece of wire", you just configure the Axia Asio soundcard by going into it’s settings and selecting the audio source and destination – I’ll try and attach a screenshot!

    #10155
    NorthSound
    Member

    Hi again,
    Simple question : I have two asio soundcards , Can i set as input device one of them and output the other one on Breakaway Asio version ?
    Thank you .
    Dimitris.

    #10156
    bofh
    Member

    I can’t see why not as the ASIO soundcards support both sending a livewire stream "to" the network and receiving a livewire stream "from" the network (eg the livewire stream from the network can be configured as the soundcard INPUT and the output of the soundcard can be configured as the livewire stream going to the network)

    #10157
    Boki
    Member

    @ bofh
    I am really interset to see how would you do that with BreakawayASIO !?
    You Can NOT set one asio soundcard as BA input (in this case Axia Asio) and another asio soundcard (eg. Juli@) as BA Output.

    You CAN do that in BBP. But… no more LowLatency (asio).

    #10158
    JesseG
    Member

    bofh is saying to do it from the Livewire ASIO driver. 😉

    #10159
    Leif
    Keymaster

    [quote author=”Boki”]@ bofh
    I am really interset to see how would you do that with BreakawayASIO !?
    You Can NOT set one asio soundcard as BA input (in this case Axia Asio) and another asio soundcard (eg. Juli@) as BA Output.

    You CAN do that in BBP. But… no more LowLatency (asio).[/quote]

    It’s true that we cannot get very low latency between two different ASIO devices, because any time we do, we need buffering and asynchronous sample rate conversion which adds a little bit of latency. Not that much, but the algorithm latency is already right on the border of realtime dj listenability.. Even a little bit more (such as livewire’s own latency, which is much higher for windows clients than for hardware units) will push it over the edge.

    Once it’s over the edge (let’s say 20+ milliseconds), it doesn’t matter anymore if it’s 50 or 500 milliseconds, it’s still too slow for the DJ to listen to. Thus, I maintain that it’s better to make the latency 500, and use those extra milliseconds to take better care of the audio than you could in a low latency environment.

    BBP does have a low latency mode though, which runs the same low latency algorithm as BBP ASIO. If you’d prefer 50-100ms over 500ms, you could use that.

    ///Leif

    #10160
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Hi guys,
    I follow the link for Axia ASIO driver but there is a password on the zip.If anyone has it it will solve a lot of my problems 🙁

    #10161
    Ken
    Member

    [quote author=”pap16″]Hi guys,
    I follow the link for Axia ASIO driver but there is a password on the zip.If anyone has it it will solve a lot of my problems 🙁[/quote]

    Hi there!

    Anyone got this password for the zip file?

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