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March 17, 2010 at 4:57 pm #746NorthSoundMember
We are into a Telos Axia "powered" environment. At the end of the chain, we have an Axia node (box who receives Ethernet and gives analog and/or digital inputs/outputs). At the other hand, we have LiveWire driver, who can installed on a computer and work as a standard soundcard (wdm driver, i think). So The computer where broadcast is installed can receive input from this (via its Ethernet port) virtual soundcard (non asio) or feed audio to its input from audio repeater, with VAC or pipeline.
The details for the driver: http://www.axiaaudio.com/components/default.htm#Driver
And here is the manual: http://www.axiaaudio.com/manuals/files/ … indows.pdfIs this possible ?
If i use standard version of Breakaway Broadcast, i will add about half second or so latency to the system.
Any Thoughts ?Thank you,
Dimitris.March 17, 2010 at 10:11 pm #10149JesseGMemberIt should work just fine. 8) Btw… jealous of your Axia. Before I got into mastering, we didn’t have that stuff in radio. Makes reconfiguring go from months of planning and work, to 5 minutes at a computer screen and 1 trip back & forth from the intended room of use.
(or 5 minutes at a computer screen halfway around the world while a "lackie" plugs in the node for you)
What a time to be doing radio engineering. 😀 😀
March 18, 2010 at 12:18 am #10150NorthSoundMemberHi JesseG and thank you for your reply….
It should work just fine , but how ? I cannot find how Breakaway Asio can accept input from a pipeline, only asio cards are in the list. Is there another way except the i/o configuration ? The LiveWire driver outputs to any available soundcard "seen" from windows operating system, so it can give sound to a BreakAway pipeline or vac (virtual audio cable). How can i "tell" breakaway asio to accept input from a pipeline? With BreakAway Broadcast its damned easy, i can select pipeline 1 from the pull down menu, but it adds some long latency to the system.
Is there any suggestion for this ?Thank you,
Dimitris.March 18, 2010 at 4:38 am #10151bofhMemberHi Dimitris,
There is an alpha version of the ASIO Axia Livewire driver available here:
http://axiaaudio.com/release-notes/axia … e/download
I’m currently using the WDM version however as I was having some issues with the sampling rate sounding off with the ASIO version and Breakaway.
Here’s a screenshot of my settings:
Cheers,
Matt
March 18, 2010 at 5:12 am #10152JesseGMemberSometimes I get ahead of myself… my bad. Don’t have an AXIA, didn’t know that wasn’t public yet. Well, it is now. 😆
March 28, 2010 at 9:50 am #10153NorthSoundMemberHi,
OK, Axia Asio version up and running… How can i receive from Axia Asio driver, at the transmitters site (lets say), and output to a physical soundcard ? When i choose Axia Asio from the drop down menu, only the Axia "devices" are shown in the list.
The "concept" is this: The livewire stream, leaves the studio via an Ethernet Radio, the other side is the transmitters site. There is a computer with an asio soundcard (breakaway capable one), and i want to feed Breakaway Asio from the Axia Asio Driver and give its output to a physical Asio (hardware) sound card to give it’s output to the transmitter …Any ideas ?
Thank you.March 28, 2010 at 11:30 am #10154bofhMemberAs far as I know, as long as you have your wireless ethernet radio setup too look like a "piece of wire", you just configure the Axia Asio soundcard by going into it’s settings and selecting the audio source and destination – I’ll try and attach a screenshot!
March 28, 2010 at 4:07 pm #10155NorthSoundMemberHi again,
Simple question : I have two asio soundcards , Can i set as input device one of them and output the other one on Breakaway Asio version ?
Thank you .
Dimitris.March 29, 2010 at 12:26 pm #10156bofhMemberI can’t see why not as the ASIO soundcards support both sending a livewire stream "to" the network and receiving a livewire stream "from" the network (eg the livewire stream from the network can be configured as the soundcard INPUT and the output of the soundcard can be configured as the livewire stream going to the network)
March 29, 2010 at 5:00 pm #10157BokiMember@ bofh
I am really interset to see how would you do that with BreakawayASIO !?
You Can NOT set one asio soundcard as BA input (in this case Axia Asio) and another asio soundcard (eg. Juli@) as BA Output.You CAN do that in BBP. But… no more LowLatency (asio).
March 29, 2010 at 9:38 pm #10158JesseGMemberbofh is saying to do it from the Livewire ASIO driver. 😉
April 1, 2010 at 8:53 am #10159LeifKeymaster[quote author=”Boki”]@ bofh
I am really interset to see how would you do that with BreakawayASIO !?
You Can NOT set one asio soundcard as BA input (in this case Axia Asio) and another asio soundcard (eg. Juli@) as BA Output.You CAN do that in BBP. But… no more LowLatency (asio).[/quote]
It’s true that we cannot get very low latency between two different ASIO devices, because any time we do, we need buffering and asynchronous sample rate conversion which adds a little bit of latency. Not that much, but the algorithm latency is already right on the border of realtime dj listenability.. Even a little bit more (such as livewire’s own latency, which is much higher for windows clients than for hardware units) will push it over the edge.
Once it’s over the edge (let’s say 20+ milliseconds), it doesn’t matter anymore if it’s 50 or 500 milliseconds, it’s still too slow for the DJ to listen to. Thus, I maintain that it’s better to make the latency 500, and use those extra milliseconds to take better care of the audio than you could in a low latency environment.
BBP does have a low latency mode though, which runs the same low latency algorithm as BBP ASIO. If you’d prefer 50-100ms over 500ms, you could use that.
///Leif
June 1, 2011 at 10:55 pm #10160AnonymousGuestHi guys,
I follow the link for Axia ASIO driver but there is a password on the zip.If anyone has it it will solve a lot of my problems 🙁June 12, 2012 at 8:44 pm #10161KenMember[quote author=”pap16″]Hi guys,
I follow the link for Axia ASIO driver but there is a password on the zip.If anyone has it it will solve a lot of my problems 🙁[/quote]Hi there!
Anyone got this password for the zip file?
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