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bass fx, impact clunk, faze rotater, faze scrambler. i take it that either bass fx or impact clunk are the best for bass? it does say in the free dsp pluggins section on the website that faze rotation can be used to create a thud however i’m thinking bass fx or impact clunk are best for either of the sounds i’m trying to emulate. i’m trying to emulate the sounds of either of the following stations. http://streamer2.ipartyradio.com:7200 http://194.158.114.66:5000 . their sounds are both clean and punchy but i would rather something like the first station. i’l give you my settings at the moment. impact clunk and bass fx, pre-emphyses at 75, power range speed and final drive at 100, bass boost at 0, bass shape at +50 (will change that to 0). not good? thinking that myself. your suggestions would be appreciated. thanks
I would say the first big problem is you’re comparing their net-radio to your FM. Two different beasts ESPECIALLY if you’re trying to be loud at all on the FM dial, especially at 75uS.
First off what you should do is start with a preset that is the closest to the sound you want to get, changing ONLY the final drive to see how it changes your sound on air. Take at least an hour listening to the presets you think get pretty close, and adjusting the final drive slowly till you are getting close as they will get.
Then pick the preset you think is closest of all, and then sit on that for a few hours, and really *THINK* about how it doesn’t operate the way you want to hear, and how increasing or decreasing any of the other sliders will make those aspects better and what other aspects they could make worse. THEN start to very very slowly adjust the settings.
Audio processing is a series of compromises, and you try to make the compromises that interfere the least with everything else that you like about the sound. It takes a while to figure out if any of the decisions you are making were good or not in the long-term average.
Also "final drive" doesn’t go to 100. It goes from -6db to +6db. I can’t think of any preset that sounds good at +6db ESPECIALLY with power and speed also cranked to the max. That’s probably a huge part of the problem. (you didn’t say what preset you were using, which is the largest factor in trying to figure out why you sound bad, but the cranked drive & speed is pretty easy to figure out as being a bad idea)
The other thing I can think of would be to make sure you calibrated the tilt correctly at least using a scope, if not a decent tuner into a scope or a calibrated (or DC straight) input and using MPXTool. If you don’t have the tilt and frequency response perfect, you’ll be compromising your sound no matter what presets and settings you’re using.
thanks jesse for your reply. my mistake about final drive i forgot it was to +6 it goes. i’m using new york preset and i actually forgot to mention that i’m an internet station not an fm station.
I designed the controls to have exaggerated range. I’ve learned it’s the only way to do it, as if you limit the range of controls, people will put them at the very edge (like 0 or 100) and feel limited. As it is now, setting them all the way in either direction is pretty much guaranteed to be a bad thing — things are much more reasonable towards the middle.
The New York Preset is very cranked as it is. It sounds good at about -2 final drive (that’s minus two, not plus two). I absolutely wouldn’t go above the default 0 on it — there’s just no way it’s going to sound good. Don’t forget to look at the oscilloscope when tweaking, to get a feel for what you’re actually asking the audio processor to do. 🙂
///Leif
And for New York preset, while you’re at it, set the pre-emphasis to 50uS. It sounds better there when you have the option to do so.
thanks jesse and life for your help. you say leave everything in the middle? i’m going to put bass shape and bass boost at 0, final drive at 0, speed at 100, range havn’t decided, power what is that?
I recommend starting with EVERYTHING in the middle to begin with. Speed 100 is VERY drastic. Even Speed 60 or Speed 40 can make a big difference.
Power adjusts the ratios of the internal dynamics processing. More power will have a higher ratio which will "push down on" the audio more when there is gain reduction. Some of those presets, such as New York, are already running at Infinite:1 ratio, so turning power above 50 will do nothing.
This is a good time to point out that deciding any of your adjustments without extensive long-term listening (like a day or two) and comparing good & bad with any previous adjustments… is not a smart thing to do, and you will not end up with the best sound you can get. It actually helps you finish sooner in the long run & get closer to your goals as well, if you make smaller adjustments then just listen for a day or two.
If you try to rush this process, or just guess settings without listening, then it will sound like that’s what you did. Not good.
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