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December 16, 2009 at 9:02 am in reply to: Looking into purchasing the Breakaway broadcast processor #9024
JesseG
Member[quote author=”yorkie98″]Paul, it may be simply that the laptop is not up to the job, also 384mb (512-128 for video) of ram is nowhere near enough, I’m suprised your OS even runs on that little, try upgrading it to 1Gb minimum, which will leave 896 for the OS which is much more like what you need nowadays. Despite this it may just simply be that the CPU cant keep up.[/quote]
I have a machine here that people use to surf with Opera on, and it has OpenOffice for typing… just some computer i could care less about for friends…
It’s running Windows XP SP3 Pro on 64 MB of ram, not including the deduction for the 4MB of shared video memory!!! And it actually isn’t as painfully slow as you would think. With 256MB of ram, and 16MB of real video memory, it would be way more than enough for what its use is for. To use it with Breakaway, all you would need is a much faster CPU for it. 😛 I did mention it is a Celeron 350mHz? 😀
My point is… just because Windows Vista requires 3GB of memory and 128MB GPU memory to look pretty, doesn’t mean you can’t have a perfectly functioning and fast stable system for Breakaway, running XP on 128MB of system memory with 16MB of video memory. But I would still go for 256MB of memory and a 128MB video card (which is about as small as they make them anymore, with decent GDI+ and DirectDraw acceleration). There’s no reason I can think of where you would ever have a problem running Breakaway on a system with that much memory.
As far as inability to keep up, that’s partly the CPU… as Paul already stated. But it also has a lot to do with the chipset and audio card and all of the related drivers once you start caring about latency.
JesseG
Member[quote author=”Leif”]For example, consistency could be improved with more aggressive AGC settings, without significantly affecting the "sound". Thoughts, Jesse?[/quote]
Turning up the power would be fine of course. In the multiband – Rustonium doesn’t have nearly as much ratio as Plutonium has. So turning up the power in Rustonium will be more balanced change between AGC and multiband.
And of course the bass is easy to turn up. Between those settings pictures… Rustonium has a more musical bass, and Plutonium has a more deep bass thud.
JesseG
MemberYou could, for instance, even have a batch script as your "shell" with a list of commands to launch all of your apps.
JesseG
MemberYou don’t need to slim down XP at all to ditch Explorer. All of the load/save file windows etc are not actually explorer, but Shell32. So ALL properly coded software should run fine without Explorer.
What you probably will want is a halfway decent file browser to use as a shell, Leif can make some recommendations there as I haven’t checked out that stuff in a while.
And all you do is change the shell path in your registry to either blank or whatever file manager you want to use, and Explorer is gone baby.
You can actually test if your software is going to work fine without explorer by going to your task manager, right clicking on explorer, and going to "End Process Tree" which will close most/all software you had running. Then you press Windows+R keys to open the "Run" window, and you can type in or browse for the executable you want to run. Namely Breakaway and your automation related software. If it all works, then you should be fine to change the shell location in your registry, and you’ll never see Explorer again.
Actually though, you can see it again if you ever want to. You run it just like a program, because that’s really all it is. Just another program that runs on your computer. 😉
JesseG
Memberthe best the HD configuration gets is two channels at 32kbps, HE-AAC or PS-AAC profile encodings, at 44.1kHz Stereo. and i’m not sure how many of the encoders are using the latest PS-AAC codec from Coding Technologies, or PS-AAC at all.
and all the other channel/data configurations compromise the audio quality even more.
High Definition it is most certainly not. 😉
JesseG
Member[quote author=”yorkie98″]It’s great for it’s very sudden volume changes and high frequency attacks when the band kicks in after the quiet periods. Also some of the quite periods have a hard to manange acoustic bass and xylophones.[/quote]Sounds like a death trap for most processors. 😆 I’ll have to check it out, thanks.
JesseG
Memberthe average loudness control in Breakaway is actually quite a lot more advanced.
as far as the meter goes, Breakaway uses LKFS, aka ITU-R BS.1770-1. it too is quite a lot more advanced than the TT-DR meter which is just using windowed RMS. the TT-DR meter is actually quite easy to fool, and not a great indicator of dynamics at all.
it would have came out a lot better if they had done it where crest was the difference between say… a 3 second RMS window, and the peaks from a 50ms RMS window with a 3 second per 6db release. that would be a much better indicator of how much dynamics something SOUNDS like it has. we don’t hear in sample values, despite TT-DR being setup that way. 😉
JesseG
MemberBy low bitrate I’m talking 64kbps and under. But I’ve never tested where the improviments really start kicking in at. I do know that by the time you get to 32kbps it’s a HUGE difference.
JesseG
MemberSpacial’s encoder did support it. http://www.spacialaudio.com/?page=winamp-plugins But it hasn’t been updated in quite a few years. I’m not sure if it does support WMA 10 Pro or not. But I would think you would want that, cos WMA 10 Pro is such a massive jump in audio quality at low bitrates. 🙂
JesseG
Memberp.s. Revolution AM 1 Sample.mp3 NTSC AM Mono 150% positive modulation, just an unrefined taste of what Breakaway can do with an AM-specific talk preset, and yes this would be LOUD on air
JesseG
Membersgeirk, try this on for size 🙂

basically a 7 band version of Plutonium, with the flawless midrange from Rusticity, and probably the best transparent AGC settings we came up with so far flawlessly matched with the rest of the preset. slightly less "searing" in the treble than what I was hearing with your Plutonium suggestions, and way more solid midrange without loosing too much of that modern "scoop" profile.
part of the testing on Rustonium was making sure that the input fader could be turned up 20 freaking decibels as fast as you can move the fader without there being ANYTHING noticeably different audibly even while the fader was moving up. and it’ll do it! without riding the audio hard. a TRUE testament to the superiority of Breakaway. DARE you to try that with ANY other processor with a preset even half as open sounding (at default settings this preset is at "reference" loudness). 😉
JesseG
Member"These presets have some intentional pumping"
also the Rusticity presets, which are highly influenced by the sound of the best of 70s era processing (one for early 70s density/speed and one for just pre-8100 density/speed). But they aren’t included anymore due to low voting. (the only other preset besides Rustonium with always flawless midrange imho is CGSmooth, but it has a more modern sound)
The way that the pumping is done in those is not easy to tell that it’s pumping. In fact the research for the methods used in it to "abuse" the two widebands was used extensively in the tuning of Rustonium, which I still feel is my most perfect "processed-sounding" preset, and I’ve decided to stop trying to make presets that sound awesome and flat all the time. My next presets will have decided amounts of "theme-based" or "genre-based" coloring.
With one exception, I’m still planning to do a talk radio preset that blows away the 9100.
JesseG
MemberI know Pat Metheny through radioio, btw. Great guy, incredible tunes.
Cool speakers. And yes, those little 1 inchers can really put out some decent sound with some EQ correction.
http://www.aurasound.com/public/pdf/NSW1-205-8A.pdf
but can’t beat the ease of just buying that Creative.JesseG
MemberIn Settings -> I/O Configuration
JesseG
MemberNot to mention the clock on the playback side is not perfectly matched, so the delay will drift at least a little bit.
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