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Kinda harsh, considering the usability is among the best I’ve ever seen from ANY software in ANY category, for "newbs" to audio related software.
That aside… yes, you’ll have to wait for the home theater version, if you’re on a surround setup, period. As far as "at any price" comment, it’s ridiculous to think that the profit margin doesn’t effect development. The profit margin of the $30 version is basically non existent. So it IS asking a lot of a $30 piece of software that technically should cost thousands of $$. Look at the history of broadcast audio processing prices, if you want a wakeup call as to how unusual it is to have access to this processing for under 2-3 grand, or even under a few hundred bucks.
Thanks for watching the site though, for the home theater version to come out. Looking forward to you demoing it, because there’s some absolutely killer stuff in it specifically for surround. Not to mention Undo.
Always possible from a technical standpoint, if someone of ample skill and experience and trustworthiness is found to port it… but … there’s a lot more that goes into making a viable product. Part of that is to deal with the structure needed to handle sales and minimal support. Money and time are needed, and with the price points of Breakaway stuff… there isn’t much room at all.
That being said, I’m not sure that iOS would even be the first mobile target, now that Android devices are outselling iOS devices more than 2 to 1, with Android showing no signs of slowing its exponential growth. Android also has the ability to have system-wide audio processing effects now too, where iOS still does not. That is another big drawback since any Breakaway processing for iOS would require to be inside some kind of music player app, and would be limited to playing music. It wouldn’t work on the YouTube app for instance. On Android it would work on ALL audio, even phone calls. 😆
If iOS supports system-wide audio effects, then it’ll be a lot better target for Breakaway. Especially since [redacted, the cat must stay in the bag], years ago now. Something I strive for, and it’s nice to see Leif embrace now, is that everything has a correct timing. I’m glad that Breakaway hasn’t grown too quickly, and Leif hasn’t had to compromise his total control over the rights to it, in order to keep up with stuff. But there will be growth. 🙂
that’s a bug then. none of the test tones should be routed through the DSP, because it’s not an accurate way to test any potential latency issues, even though the handling of the data *should* be passively sent to the DSP chain… i dunno, I’ll tell Leif about it either way. 🙂 thanks for bringing it up.
In both cases previously, that happened because Leif didn’t maintain 100% control over his creation. This time, that is not the case. Nobody retains any rights to Leif’s creation besides Leif. Omnia & Leif are making some money together by releasing it. So is Linear Acoustic, for a decade now. Leif has had hardware boxes with Telos Alliance for almost twice as long as Breakaway has been around. Boxes which almost completely dominate the digital TV market. It was because of that success which allowed Leif to do hobby products like Breakaway. In reality, the success of Linear Acoustic boxes are the reason Breakaway exists. Why would the Omnia.9 do the opposite?
Worry if you want, but let’s keep this thread on topic. There’s other topics with plenty of worry to post in.
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Linear Acoustic web guy/s are actually who’s hosting/sysadmin on this website now, so it’s on them that these files aren’t available. I told Leif about this months ago, when I discovered it myself, and he told them. Totally inexcusable screwup of service, I agree.
[quote author=”bennylein1985″]jesse believe me. no test-tones @dsp encoder.[/quote]
i do believe you. that’s the way that it should be operating. test tones for the soundcard aren’t routed through anything external of Breakaway like a plugin.Without RDS, and with SSB, you can technically do MPX from a 96kHz audio card. 😉 But the question begs to ask… if you’re licensed, and successfully got approved by the FCC to try SSB within the test phase happening now, why can’t you afford a $120 Marian Trace Alpha for your station. 😉
So really, MPX on 96kHz is meaningless to a hobby caster, unless you aren’t on the FCC’s or some other regulation group’s radar, and hence doing SSB is the least of your concerns. SSB isn’t available in current Breakaway versions though, so… unless you have the cash for an Omnia.9 or Omnia.11, ehh. (StereoTool doesn’t support SSB yet, does it?)
Anywho… it is actually possible. Just… doesn’t make sense as an argument in this case. Even if Breakaway supported SSB. There’s cards for so cheap out there (Marian Trace Alpha) that can get you a great signal quality without any tweaking or adjusting required.
You should adjust the "ITU Reference Level" in the settings to match the ~average point where the input loudness (ITU-R BS.1770-1) meter is at. You’ll see it within the input meter as a white line going through the slower loudness part of the meter.
That adjusts where the in-multi-band downward expander thresholds are at. 8)
Let us know…
Great to know. I’ve been pretty much ignoring 8 unless I hear that it’s got some reason to actually upgrade from 7. And unlike Bill’s assumption… I *DO* use the start menu, all the time, cos all you have to do is hit the "Windows" key, type 2-3 letters from what you want to find, and bam, there it is, hit enter, done. Windows 8 GUI… not nearly as convenient. 😉 (and yes, i know it still has a desktop and start menu, they haven’t completely killed everything good about Windows yet)
A faster, better, smoother kernel would be a good reason to switch. Anything running better on many-cored setups.
Actually @ "WOW"… it’s not a surround effect. It’s just two channel. Basically all of those "enhancer" things are for stereo sound, and they are generally crap.
But in the case of WOW, if you get the professional rackmount unit for it, which i believe to be ULTRA rare, it’s got a few more adjustments for the WOW effect (and thankfully the ability to turn off TrueBass completely)… And depending on the processing after it, it can actually sound pretty dang amazing.
I don’t know if anyone remembers the old WolfFM on Shoutcast. That was my first #1 adventures, with Steve Wolf, as I was responsible for the sound of the station. Basically out of the mixer’s master bus, through the WOW, and into an Omnia.3NET using "an alternate PCMCIA card" that Omnia sent us. I then retuned one of the presets from the card specifically for the station’s playlist and the sound both me and Steve wanted. It sounded freakin GOOD for its time.
The first "Save Internet Radio" broadcast was done on WolfFM also, while I was then with Radioio, which also participated in the event. So that was a good "family" reunion, and a lot of great interactions happened that day, which literally DID save internet radio. DIMA came out of that, for instance. 😉
Anyways… yeah, sometimes it’s all about how you use something, even though some implementations of a technology might be crap always, sometimes there’s exceptions.
Unfortunately all available WOW units for consumers that I’ve seen are way too aggressive with the way they rework the stereo image, and don’t provide a few crucial controls to tone it down. But yeah, WOW definitely screws with mono compatibility, so for broadcasting it’s not nearly as good of an idea as Challenger, which maintains mono compatibility. 8)
