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LeifKeymaster
You drag it 🙂. Hold down the mouse button, and move to the right.
Hey, how did you adjust the other sliders? They all work the same way.
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LeifKeymasterAh, that would explain it. Try setting it to -0.5. Free loudness!
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LeifKeymasterI don’t know. There should be no difference when using Breakaway or other processors on this.
If you have an oscilloscope, connect it to the sound card output and turn on the QuickSweep, to verify that all frequencies are coming through as they should.
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LeifKeymasterOops, I take that back. Next song sounds awful:
That could be the original though. Tya – Nonamata / Long Ago. It’s probably ruined on the CD. 😥
Check on the "Settings" page! There’s a control labeled L/R Ref Level. Where is it set now?
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LeifKeymasterIt looks like you are hitting the clippers on peaks (which is fine in BBP!) but then attenuating too much afterwards.
The audio sounds awesome now — but could be louder with no penalty!
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LeifKeymasterHey, where’s your "L/R Output Level" set? It looks like it’s set to -2 or -3 now. Let me see if I can get a screenshot for you.
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LeifKeymasterRight now the actual level is about -3. I’m thinking the drums will fill up that headroom once they kick in.. It may be safe to turn up the final drive a bit though, since most of your stuff doesn’t have that much drums to begin with, right?
Edit: turns out there are no drums in the original Tubular Bells at all. Man, you’ve gotta hear the remake!
Apparently, Mike Oldfield was never satisfied with the original Tubular Bells release, but he was stuck in a contract and couldn’t remake it. That contract expired in ’02 or so, and lo and behold, in ’03 he remade it. He did a heck of a job too.
Man, that kinda rings a bell for myself, OctiMax vs Breakaway 😀.
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LeifKeymasterI heard that switch. 🙂 Got much quieter, but that’s what volume controls are for, and right now there’s really no high-end to fill up the waveform, so i’d say it’s working correctly.
I’m still listening. Let’s see what happens when things kick in again.
Reference Settings colours the sound more than Reference Classical (i.e. adds bass/treble) which you may also like.
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LeifKeymasterI think the impact/clunk was probably the lesser of the problems.. Admit it, you like it this loud, don’t you? 🙂
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LeifKeymasterHowdy!
Not bad, not bad at all. That’s seriously fat sound for a new age station 🙂.
It might be a bit over the top though for me though. It sounded great until some drums kicked in — it got pretty squashed. It’s clean (no distortion), but there’s also no dynamics left. Have you tried just plain reference settings?
Bass-EFX is probably a good thing, but Impact/Clunk probably does more harm than good on this content, since there aren’t really many transients (drums) to begin. Impact/Clunk helps drums punch through, but if you had more a less pushed preset (such as reference settings) then you wouldn’t need the plug-in to begin with, since the drums would have actual, real headroom.
If reference settings isn’t loud enough, you should be able to turn up the final drive 1 or 2dB, although you might still need impact/clunk then.
Overall, nice job though! Other than the overly processed preset, it sounds like you’re doing everything right.
Best,
///LeifAddendum: Tubular bells is on! Nice. But hey, you’ve gotta hear the 2003 remake. It sounds incredible.
LeifKeymasterHi Stvgr!
I had a similar problem with a BW PLL+ 1W transmitter. It turned out to be slightly off-frequency! (It was not at 106.00, it was at 106.05 for example). This will make some receivers have problems, and others will work fine. After adjusting the frequency it worked fine.
If it’s not that (probably not — Elenos makes pretty good stuff), perhaps it’s a level problem? Are you sure your ref level is set correctly?
You can also try turning up the pilot level. I have seen radios which have trouble with 8% pilot, but do fine with 10%.
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LeifKeymasterHi Veli!
Mastering with Breakaway in this manner is definitely possible, although Breakaway Broadcast isn’t perfect for mastering yet because of the 16 kHz low-pass filter. Breakaway Live doesn’t have the low-pass filter but also doesn’t have the clipper — it’s look-ahead limiter only.
Mastering with Breakaway for playing on the air later would be much better than how most CDs today are mastered (compress to death, limit to death, and then clip the samples by saturation at 44100hz — essentially the worst thing you could possibly do to audio).
However, I’d be careful with the compression, particularly the AGC. Try turning down the Range control significantly — if it’s the master is already dynamics-free, it won’t survive another pass through a multiband processor without damage.
Best,
///LeifLeifKeymasterHi Adam!
If it sounds different than what you’re used to hearing on the air, that means:
a) your radio sucks 🙂
or
b) the transmitter sucks
or
c) your engineer listens to composite without stereo decoding or pre-emphasisBecause, MPX out of the processor sounds *exactly* like what you could expect to hear from a good radio tuned into a station, only with less background noise.
My apologies — this is a big pet peeve of mine. That whole spiel that certain processor manufacturers do, "you have to hook it up to YOUR transmitter and YOUR studio to know if the algorithms inside are any good, to see if they’re compatible to make beautiful music together". I call bullcrap. The processor determines the sound of the station, period. If the transmitter alters it in any way, it’s broken. (any modification ruins the peak control, and thus robs you of loudness. any extra peak control after other modifications, makes it an audio processor, not a transmitter).
That being said, I’m looking forward to that MPX! Thank you.
I’m going to post modification instructions for the Tivoli Model One shortly — that way, those who are so inclined can DIY and easily get composite off air.
I tend to run Plutonium without modifications (that is, all controls in the middle). I may boost bass a little bit, but it’s important to keep the balance — if you want more bass, you have to sacrifice some loudness, or you also get more distortion which you didn’t ask for.
Best,
///LeifLeifKeymasterHi Adam!
If it sounds different than what you’re used to hearing on the air, that means:
a) your radio sucks 🙂
or
b) the transmitter sucks
or
c) your engineer listens to composite without stereo decoding or pre-emphasisBecause, MPX out of the processor sounds *exactly* like what you could expect to hear from a good radio tuned into a station, only with less background noise.
My apologies — this is a big pet peeve of mine. That whole spiel that certain processor manufacturers do, "you have to hook it up to YOUR transmitter and YOUR studio to know if the algorithms inside are any good, to see if they’re compatible to make beautiful music together". I call bullcrap. The processor determines the sound of the station — if the transmitter alters it in any way, it also robs you of loudness (and peak control).
That being said, I’m looking forward to that MPX! Thank you.
I’m going to post modification instructions for the Tivoli Model One shortly — that way, those who are so inclined can DIY and easily get composite off air.
I tend to run Plutonium without modifications (that is, all controls in the middle). I may boost bass a little bit, but it’s important to keep the balance — if you want more bass, you have to sacrifice some loudness, or you also get more distortion which you didn’t ask for.
Best,
///LeifLeifKeymasterNice!
You don’t happen to have an MPX tuner in your luggage do you? 🙂
I’ve been recording lots of stations both in Sweden and here in the states. I’ll post them on mpxtool.com some time soon.
Dell Inspiron 1420 laptop (192k input on-board!) and modified Tivoli Model One. That’s it! Awfully convenient mod monitoring / mpx recording setup.
///Leif
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