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Well, I just gave it a go, and I must admit it works fine, but for me there’s some regressions compared to the 4.15c version. I guess it’s not entirely the fault of BP/VAC as I’ll explain further, but it’s enough for me to stick with the previous version.
One weird issue I’m having with BP 4.31/VAC 4.64 compared to BP 4.15c is the jitter performance I get on Kernel Streaming. With the previous version, I can easily set my BP input/output to 48 kHz 128 block, and I get a jitter value of around 30-40%. This leads me to a latency of 0.09 seconds. But with the new version, the minimum buffer I can set is 240, with jitter as high as 60-70%, and a latency of 0.14 sec. The “Wave” method is even worse, I have to set a block size like 1700 or more for it to work. So that’s the first issue I have, with both BP 4.31 and VAC 4.64 (latest). Difference in performance, in the wrong way.
The second issue, I guess is because I’m using Voicemeeter Potato to route my audio on my computer. And with both BP 4.31 and VAC 4.64 again, I can’t use the virtual audio cables with Kernel Streaming inside Voicemeeter! That leads to two problems: I have a slightly higher latency because I have to switch to WDM or MME, and the biggest problem is that the audio stops if I switch Windows accounts (it still works if I use KS). But I guess these problems are more about Voicemeeter itself, and I’m currently contacting the author to see with him what is it about.
So for me right now, because of these issues, 4.15c is still my preferred version. I also downgraded BAE of course, because it won’t work if I don’t. BTW, when you upgrade BAE, all the settings (including your preset selections) are lost, and the only way to recover them is to downgrade. Don’t forget to keep a note of them when you’re about to install the new version!
Yes, I saw that post a few moments ago, so I did write to him. And indeed, I’m using 20H2 (Windows Insider beta even) so that applies to me 😉 Thanks for the heads up!
@Milky, I was wondering if there’s any way to be a part of the beta testing somehow? I’m also having trouble with my sound on Windows 10 and BA1, I don’t know if it’s related to the same issue or if it’s something else but it would same me some time in testing things if the answer is already there 🙂
There's algoriths such as (Fast) Fourier Transformation which can help you with that. You give it some waveform signal on the input (a few milliseconds for example) and it gives you a list of frequencies/amplitude in return. You can then read and change the amplitude of those frequencies, then do the reverse transformation to get some waveform signal back and you have your equalizer 🙂
Note: The more data you feed your FFT, the more precise your equalizer gets (you get more detailed frequency ranges) but the more latency you have of course. FFT simply reads a list of levels for each period of time, and it outputs a list of amplitudes of each frequency. You then don't work with time (as a waveform does) but with frequency (as a RTA does).
[quote author=JesseG link=topic=5467.msg19296#msg19296 date=1504122846]
Noted. I'll pass it (possible BaOne sleep issue) on to Leif after I confirm it with some testing here.
[/quote]That reminds me of something…
[quote author=Leif link=topic=1010.msg7044#msg7044 date=1270848582]
The long-standing standby/hibernation crash bug is FIXED. When you hibernate your computer, Breakaway Live now gracefully shuts down the audio engine, and comes back when you turn your computer back on. Breakaway Live is finally viable on both the desktops and notebooks of audio professionals!
[/quote]Tested Breakaway Live in Windows 10 Insider Preview, build 16251 x86 (prerelease of Fall Creators Update) and… it works again. *sigh* I don't know if I'm ready to install Insider Preview on my laptop though 🙂 Well, I bought BAE while waiting foir the official update, it'll do the job.
It's a laptop, so if I don't use deep sleep, my battery won't last very long 🙂 And BAL didn't have a single problem with that, so I'd rather keep using BAL ^^ (if I could anyway).
Hi Jesse,
I already transfered my license to BreakawayOne, but I still prefer using BAL because of its toolbar, and also BreakawayOne (App mode) crashes when the PC goes into deep sleep, so I have to restart it everytime. And if I don't use it in App mode, I don't get the keyboard volume control, which is also annoying.
I still wanna use BAL on my computer, it worked fine on Windows 1607, doesn't work anymore on 1703. I'm even willing to pay a little extra (like $15) to get an updated version of BAL, or even have a version without the protection (I highly doubt on this one but if you don't ask… :)).
Yann
I tried uninstalling and reinstall both BL and BAE, rebooting between each, several times, couldn't find a way to make it work. I've attached the screenshot. I tried it in a freshly installed Win10 Familial 32 bits inside a virtual machine just to make sure my system is clean. BAE always runs perfectly, but not BL.
If needed, I can give a remote access to this VM so you can do all the tests you want.
Yann
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If anyone reading this post and somehow concerned about the future of Breakaway in newer versions of Windows could write a mail to the following address:
code :windows_system (at) claessonedwards.comMaybe this would make Claesson Edwards Staff know that we, customers of Breakaway, want an answer to our problem.
Last answer I got (21/11/15) was the same as last year's :
quote :Thanks for taking the time and effort to research the problem and write to us.Yes, we are quite familiar with the problem and solution. Leif is planning to release updated versions of all the Breakaway products early next year. The new versions will be compatible with Windows 8 & 10.
We will notify you when they are ready.
I doubt this takes that long to do…
[quote author=Boki link=topic=5229.msg18611#msg18611 date=1448062219]
Probably Software Protection problem (Win License or Themida or both). You cant do nothing till that one is updated.
[/quote]It is the software protection indeed. Some other software, like games, suffered from this bug as well, I looked how they fixed it and… all they did was to update the protection and then it worked. That's why I think it would be interesting that Leif made an upgrade too, because Breakaway is still sold, and shipped with this bug, so it doesn't only afffect long-term customers, it affects new customers too, and also those who try the demo first and see that it doesn't work… Too bad, one sell lost!
Personally I still have the "internal exception occured (Address: 0x0), please contact support@oreans.com".
Weird thing is I tried a cracked version of BAE (yes I know it's wrong…) which in fact is totally unprotected (no more WinLicense junk, original executable code), and it works very well, even on an Atom tablet with Win10 Home 1511 (it worked with "Win 8.1 with Bing" too). I wish I could have such an "unprotected version" of Breakaway Live too, to have access to a proper equalizer…
Please Leif, do something, just tell us how to make it work on newer systems or give us some new exe…
EDIT: Interestingly, Breakaway Live 0.90.96b works on Windows 10 (Pro at least) 1511 64 bits… Doesn't work on 32 bits OS. What's the difference??
Got a quick reply from Claesson Edwards support:
quote :HelloThe current version of Breakaway is not compatible with windows 8. We plan to release a new version early next year that will be compatible.
Breakaway support
So I have to wait… New version, hum? Early next year, hum?…
I think he means that the Latest version topic is unavailable because you need a login to access it:
http://www.ceaudio.com/beta/breakaway_s … .02_rc.exe
Asks for a login/password (and a 401 if you fail at it).
