Breakaway DJ

Hi Leif,

I have a couple more questions for you regarding Breakaway DJ:

1) If I set the breakaway pipeline #1 as my default audio device in Vista playback devices and I try to use my keyboard volume controls on the laptop I get very strange results, the volume is not controlled and if I mute it, then unmute it the Breakaway DJ gets stuck at Muted – if I try to unmute or put the volume higher in BADJ it keeps automatically going back to Muted. I get stuck in this loop unless I log off and back on… Is there a way to control the volume with Vista 64 for BADJ without using the BADJ interface?

2) How is it that your asio interface works perfectly with OtsAV for me and my Echo Indigo DJx card with BADJ, but if I use Asio in OtsAV I have problems such as skipping and slowing down of music if I type in OtsAV’s search box? An OtsAV admin says this is because basically Echo’s driver does not comply with the Asio standards.

Thanks!

[quote author=”Leif”]When importing a playlist without Breakaway DJ but still using ASIO, how does it work?

///Leif[/quote]

Never an issue, even my large lists. Its only with breakaway I have it almost gone now, but I raised the buffer up on a few levels. It’s really not that big on an issue I usually only import this playlist when doing open dance and thats the only time I have seen it lag on me even slow the voice and picture down. Yea I’m really not understanding what is happening when I get this drag on my program. I’m pretty sure its got to be something that I’m doing or not doing. Again I’m also not sure on the settings that I should be using either.

[quote author=”Leif”]Alright, sounds like I need to make a couple of changes. I will add a tone generator to BDJ. This will let us find out which part is skipping — the OTS->BDJ link, or BDJ’s audio engine itself.

I should also probably add the option for Audio Realtime Priority back in. If BDJ is what’s skipping, this may help.

To be honest, I completely forgot to even test the Volume Control code. My keyboard (IBM Model M, 1991) doesn’t have the keys, so it’s easy to forget. I will test and get feature working for the next version. 🙂

Bryan, it uninstalled just Breakaway Pipeline, not BAE. You can still use your older version of BAE with the new pipeline! You shouldn’t have to change anything at all — it should just work.

Best,
///Leif[/quote]

Thanks Lief,

I think its going to be OTS and how it reacts or the interaction between BDJ and the ASIO drivers that pioneer uses. They are there very own drivers. I have a feeling that is where the problems lies. But if that where true I would think I would have problems playing music in general. Which I do not have, its only during this import of a large playlist of about 500 songs (audio and music videos) but it will literally slow the system down so much the music and video lags. Thanks for everything great program. I have also watched my system and it does not seem to push my system any harder than before. Smaller lists import pretty much with out a problems so its obvious that the size is and issue.

Hi Leif!

I now have a breakaway collection:

2x BAE + 2x BA Live and now 1x BDJ. All working great!!!

what the possibility to implement in BDJ an option to output MONO, like Breakaway live has?

Thanks! 😀 😀 😀

[quote author=”Leif”]Mono?? Well, I certainly could, if you give me your good reason for wanting it 🙂.

///Leif[/quote]

When stereo is very separeted, is dificult to provide a balaced level stereo ( 2 channels signal) in all places of an social dance ambient. Peoples are moving, and many times they are more close to one speaker then the other.

One solution is stack the speakers. Other is play in mono.

I have 2 mixers. A Pioneer 600 has mono output option, but my Denon DN-X120 don’t has it.

[quote author=”Dj Buik”]He’s got a point. Also in (large) disco’s you do not need stereo sound.
In certain places mono is better than stereo.[/quote]
Tell that to Ministry of Sound, or any other club DSL has handled. Better yet, audition one of his systems and compare stereo to mono.

You’ll find it is needed and makes a huge difference if the system design doesn’t suck. The problem is the system design, not the source or the room/place. But I do agree with you, some systems are designed so badly that mono actually sounds better. Sad but true, but still not a constant.

[quote author=”JesseG”][quote author=”Dj Buik”]He’s got a point. Also in (large) disco’s you do not need stereo sound.
In certain places mono is better than stereo.[/quote]
Tell that to Ministry of Sound, or any other club DSL has handled. Better yet, audition one of his systems and compare stereo to mono.

You’ll find it is needed and makes a huge difference if the system design doesn’t suck. The problem is the system design, not the source or the room/place. But I do agree with you, some systems are designed so badly that mono actually sounds better. Sad but true, but still not a constant.[/quote]

I agree!

Switching your club Sound system into mono is not the way to go…we’re not in the 70’s anymore1 It’s 2010!!!

Fix the problem rather than choosing the easy way out.

I deal with many club sound systems, most of them (including Ministry Of Sound) use Sondweb DSP from BSS Audio….google them….and I’ve never come across a Mono program design (apart from single speaker zones such as Toilets, Lobby etc…you know what I mean!)

A proper system sounds way better in Stereo even in a big oddly shaped venue, there’s better feel for the music and ambience rather than flat single firing Mono channels….but if the venue has a poor or limited system and there’s nothing you can do about it then, yeah maybe Mono could help make a bad situation a little better!

It’s up to Leif if he wants to chuck the feature in. 🙂