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"American Boy" by Estelle is pure clipping distortion — although clipping will also cause some IMD, it is very different from the IMD distortion caused by look-ahead limiters.
That particular song was clipped at least twice. You can see it by looking on the scope. First, they hard-clipped it like crazy — then it went through something analog, or maybe a non phase linear high pass filter, so that all the clipped edges are tilting.. and then, they clipped it again, and called it a release! Congratulations on a mastering job well done, guys. 🙄
It’s not the first time I’ve seen it, but that particularly song is some of the worst sound quality I have ever heard from a modern mass-market release. It’s right up there with Rush – Vapor Trails and Metallica – Death Magnetic.
TATU, on the other hand, is absolutely the type of IM distortion I’m talking about. In a way it’s more insidious than clipping distortion, because everyone is familiar with the sound of blown speakers / overdriven amplifiers, but limiter-induced IM distortion doesn’t sound like that, so people do not immediately recognize it. The ears give up just the same though — without consciously knowing why.
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///Leif[quote author=”richardjames2005″]Thought I could still hear some IM distortion, so I dialled back the final drive to -3.5db on Twente preset. I think its gone, although, I can still hear some occassionally….. Must be the source mp3’s I think… I have heard another dance station that wont touch a tune unless its in uncompressed WAV format, now I am starting to understand why!!!![/quote]
Most of my collection is digitized as FLAC and good quality layer-3 (Lame apx or V0 with low-pass as high as it goes, the extra size is worth it). For 99% of everything I would be hard pressed to ABX it against the originals.
Even though some/most/whatever of your mp3s might have artifacts, the problem you’re having is not one inherent in layer-3 coding itself. It’s probably some problem with the ripper (not too likely unless it’s processing the audio, still you should switch to Exact Audio Copy w/ Secure + AccurateRip) or the playback/transport (most likely).
Why don’t you share here one of the songs that you think is especially effected by whatever is causing this for your end-stream sound, so we can check out the mp3. 😉
I’m not sure if this has been thought of. But Ots has it’s own processor biult in. Has anyone looked into that?
[quote author=”stationx”]I’m not sure if this has been thought of. But Ots has it’s own processor biult in. Has anyone looked into that?[/quote]
Yes, right in this very thread. Don’t suppose you read it? 😉
I am now using the Bass -EFX and Impact/clunk plug ins, in Conjunction with the CHR settings, what do people think??
http://spring.wavestreamer.com:2854/listen.pls
Rich.
Decent Rich. Odd that you are into this kind of music, with the name Richard James.
http://www.discogs.com/artist/Richard+D.+James
😉I’m using OtsAV also with Breakaway but when I record a wave file in OtsAV it’s not processed with Breakaway. How can I set OtsAV to also record the wave file with Breakaway?
Depends on how you’ve connected Breakaway into OTSAV.
If you’re using the LiveLink DSP plug-in, then the problem is OTSAV — you’ll have to ask the support how to record DSP processed audio.
If you’re using Pipelines, then you can set Breakaway to output to a pipeline, and record from that pipeline with any audio recorder.
///Leif
No, there is an option in Ots AV to record the output to wave but how can I process it with Breakaway?
Leif JUST said…. "you’ll have to ask the support how to record DSP processed audio."
I agree with him. I was in a position a few years ago to even PAY THEM to do custom work on it for a company I was with, WHATEVER would make them happy enough to do a few things to it, and that was one of them. "Admin" turned down our offers.
So good freakin luck asking them for a feature. 😆 I’m not saying it won’t happen, just going from my experience… I wouldn’t get too hopeful. You might get it done faster to find or code yourself a winamp dsp plugin that outputs to a soundcard or file.
Which support? I ask it here so someone have the answer maybe? Which DSP plugin is working and how can I install it in OtsAV?
[quote author=”Erwin”]Which support? I ask it here so someone have the answer maybe? Which DSP plugin is working and how can I install it in OtsAV?[/quote]
Ots support, and the answer is there is no way to do it in Ots…. which is why I suggested that your find a DSP that will do that (if it even exists and if not learn to code C++ and make it yourself!)
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