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October 19, 2011 at 9:07 pm #12704radiorioMember
[quote author=”Dj Buik”]Just upgraded to this new version.
I have some problems with AAC encoder, it sounds like ‘under water’.
I used the one from this site:
http://www.rarewares.org/index.phpI worked with the ‘old’ winamp AAC dll.
Can you also change the installer so it does not search for a winamp install.
It’s impossible to install, for example, to the Breakaway Live directory.Thanks for your efforts[/quote]
To be honest, I wouldn’t be surprised if I broke something regarding AAC encoding – the audio "paths" in edcast are "interesting" to say the least – will look into itI’ll also remove the winamp requirement for install of the DSP. Should it install in a plugins folder? There may also be other issues (with config/log files) in vista/7 if it’s not installed with winamp – I’ll have to check the code
Do you run vista/7? Where should the edcast DSP be installed for Breakaway Live? (I don’t use Breakaway Live myself)
October 19, 2011 at 9:42 pm #12705Dj BuikMemberThanks for the fast reply.
I got some more info for you:
AAC works perfect with the old Winamp (v5.601) install, this is the enc_aacplus.dll (893 Kb).
With the version downloaded from rarewares (libfaac.dll) it sounds scrambled.Also the new enc_fhgaac.dll (from fraunhofer) doesn’t work (edcast doesn’t see the dll),
which comes with the new Winamp (v5.621) install.I run Windows 7-32bit. I manually copied the following files from the Winamp folder
to the root of Breakaway install folder. (Breakaway has no plugin folder)bass.dll
liboggflac.dll
ogg.dll
pthreadVSE.dll
vorbis.dll
enc_aacplus.dll
libFLAC.dll
dsp_edcast.dll
edcast.chmOctober 19, 2011 at 11:16 pm #12706radiorioMemberYou’ve confused me
AAC is not AAC+
AAC = libfaac
AAC+ = winamps enc_aacplus.dll (older winamp) or enc_fhgaac.dll (later winamp)
there are now two versions of dsp_edcast – one with, one without fraunhofer aac+ support
if you can get your hands on older (not too old) winamp that has the enc_aacplus.dll, you can copy that to the folder where dsp_edcast is, and you’ll have aacplus working
or, using the dsp_edcastfh.dll (experimental)
install dsp_edcastfh – and copy enc_fhgaac.dll, nsutil.dll and libmp4v2.dll from the new winamp (the last two dll’s are in the winamp folder, not in plugins) – you MAY need Microsoft Visual C++ 2008 redistributables for this to work
easiest method is enc_aacplus.dll from older winamp (available at http://www.filehippo.com/download_winamp/ – look to the right hand side for older versions)
October 19, 2011 at 11:19 pm #12707radiorioMember[quote author=”Dj Buik”]I run Windows 7-32bit. I manually copied the following files from the Winamp folder
to the root of Breakaway install folder. (Breakaway has no plugin folder)
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where do edcast’s .cfg and .log files get created in this scenario?I really need to overhaul (again) the .cfg/.log location
October 20, 2011 at 12:24 am #12708radiorioMemberI just checked the code around libfaac – nothing should have changed – can you tell me what parameters you are using when using AAC (not plus) … i.e. channels, sample rate, bit rate – I just noticed the controls are a bit off with AAC, I’ll fix that too (AAC should only accept quality setting, not bitrate setting, apparently)
October 20, 2011 at 6:08 am #12709JesseGMember[quote author=”radiorio”]the audio "paths" in edcast are "interesting" to say the least[/quote]
Being one of the old committers to that source, I had to laugh at that. Sooo true. Ed has definitely come a long way since the foundation of it was created.October 20, 2011 at 8:39 am #12710Dj BuikMember[quote author=”radiorio”]where do edcast’s .cfg and .log files get created in this scenario?
I really need to overhaul (again) the .cfg/.log location[/quote]The log and cfg files are created into the root of Breakaway: c:Program FilesBreakawaylive
dsp_edcast_v3.log
dsp_edcast_v3_x.log
dsp_edcast_v3_x.cfgNo need to change that 🙂
October 20, 2011 at 8:48 am #12711Dj BuikMember[quote author=”radiorio”]You’ve confused me
AAC is not AAC+
AAC = libfaac
AAC+ = winamps enc_aacplus.dll (older winamp) or enc_fhgaac.dll (later winamp)
there are now two versions of dsp_edcast – one with, one without fraunhofer aac+ support[/quote]
You are right, my bad 😳 😳 😳 😳
So, i’ve got it working with the old enc_aacplus.dll,
i didn’t know there were two versions of edcast.What is the difference between the fraunhofer aac+ and the old enc_aacplus one?
Is this a licence issue or is there also a difference in encoding quality?October 20, 2011 at 8:56 am #12712radiorioMember[quote author=”JesseG”][quote author=”radiorio”]the audio "paths" in edcast are "interesting" to say the least[/quote]
Being one of the old committers to that source, I had to laugh at that. Sooo true. Ed has definitely come a long way since the foundation of it was created.[/quote]
That makes it sound like the old was even worse!!!Or did nobody ever change his first attempt at it?
October 20, 2011 at 6:26 pm #12713JesseGMemberI still prefer CT and Nero to FhG. 8)
October 21, 2011 at 11:16 am #12714radiorioMember[quote author=”Dj Buik”][quote author=”radiorio”]You’ve confused me
AAC is not AAC+
AAC = libfaac
AAC+ = winamps enc_aacplus.dll (older winamp) or enc_fhgaac.dll (later winamp)
there are now two versions of dsp_edcast – one with, one without fraunhofer aac+ support[/quote]
You are right, my bad 😳 😳 😳 😳
So, i’ve got it working with the old enc_aacplus.dll,
i didn’t know there were two versions of edcast.What is the difference between the fraunhofer aac+ and the old enc_aacplus one?
Is this a licence issue or is there also a difference in encoding quality?[/quote]I can tell you, config for fraunhofer is far simpler 😉But fraunhofer needs to other dll’s, plus is "linked" to msvscr90.dll – sloppy programming if you ask me, I bet it doesn’t NEED any msvcr90 features
October 22, 2011 at 4:42 am #12715JesseGMember[quote author=”radiorio”]I bet it doesn’t NEED any msvcr90 features[/quote]
or at least it probably doesn’t benefit a lot from it. there ARE optimizations for new processors that are coming out and built into these newer MS C++ libs… it just depends on what classes are being used. On the other hand, I can see why an app like Winamp – with many DLL exes being loaded – would use a single C lib for everything instead of static linking it on every DLL exe. The memory footprint is decently smaller than it would be otherwise, which can make or break using it with other apps (or at all) on an older (10+ years) system.btw… for a long time Winamp had its own C lib. "nscrt" or something, if i (probably don’t) remember correctly. in a way it’s a shame they got rid of it, because it was small and fast. i have my own C lib I’ve been working on for most of a decade, for my own projects. it’s a nice thing to have when you want to do stuff reasonably small, without resorting to some xASM flavor.
but whatever, 641 KB for msvcr90.dll is fine by me, especially if there is anything at all being optimized for my i7 CPU.
</programmer_nerd>
October 22, 2011 at 10:46 pm #12716radiorioMember[quote author=”JesseG”]
but whatever, 641 KB for msvcr90.dll is fine by me, especially if there is anything at all being optimized for my i7 CPU.</programmer_nerd>[/quote]
That’s food for thought … I hadn’t considered there may be cpu optimizations in these latter vscrt’sOctober 30, 2011 at 11:19 am #12717GeorgeMemberHi RadioRio!
Can’t access to your website anymore…
ESET (Nod32) reports your site as….potentially dangerous content!!!!!! 😈 😈 😈I know the way how to bypass Nod32 alert but, your site it’s on a blacklist…
GOD, (Eset)…save us from these dangerous sites
October 30, 2011 at 11:55 am #12718radiorioMember[quote author=”George”]Hi RadioRio!
Can’t access to your website anymore…
ESET (Nod32) reports your site as….potentially dangerous content!!!!!! 😈 😈 😈I know the way how to bypass Nod32 alert but, your site it’s on a blacklist…
GOD, (Eset)…save us from these dangerous sites [/quote]
I used to have a warning for the BETA edcast that warned it could reprogram your dog – I wonder if that’s it 😉what a pain – which blacklist – any idea when it was blacklisted?
Actually, it’s probably users.tpg.com.au in general – I’ve been meaning to setup a site outside of my ISP – just haven’t got around to it
Try http://code.google.com/p/edcast-reborn/ – it’s not pretty yet – but it’s safe – BETA’s available http://code.google.com/p/edcast-reborn/downloads/list
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