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September 12, 2010 at 2:37 am #11366Q106Member
Jesse,U showed your trump card too early.I stand by my post.A joint R&D with the processing guru,Mr. Foti.Hey,who could blame you.Let the ass kicking begin.Good luck to you guys.
September 12, 2010 at 3:28 am #11367sgeirkMemberWell…. MPX Tool does come with a new Omnia.11. Which is a great thing!
September 12, 2010 at 4:39 am #11368JesseGMember[quote author=”Q106″]Jesse,U showed your trump card too early.I stand by my post.A joint R&D with the processing guru,Mr. Foti.Hey,who could blame you.Let the ass kicking begin.Good luck to you guys.[/quote]
I’ve talked with Frank, Bob, Camille, Gregg, Scott, etc, etc… before I ever knew Leif about 4 years ago. Leif already had boxes out with Linear Acoustic for twice as long as that, a Telos company. So Frank having a copy of Breakaway software that the public doesn’t have is a trump card? Whatever you say. 🙂And yeah MPX Tool comes with the Omnia.11. I don’t see how I’m suddenly giving you new information here. As I said, the scene doesn’t have enemies, people enjoy sharing their work with each other, and also work with each other from time to time.
Leif used to work AT Orban too btw. "OMG OMG The Breakaway hardware is going to be an Orban, right?" 😉 Speculate all you want.
September 12, 2010 at 1:03 pm #11369Q106MemberGot a target date on the new box? Might could get some last quarter sales for stations looking to buy gear before end of year…
September 12, 2010 at 1:35 pm #11370AnonymousGuest[quote author=”michi95″][quote author=”Ivo”]In my opinion this is really important because if your source isn’t sounding well, you just can’t make it better using a sound processor.[/quote]
I disagree.
But I understand that this opinion is based on your experiences………… >> ………
most sound processors (even Breakaway, sorry) make many bad sounding sources only less annoying, but you cannot feed them with crap on the input and get high fidelity on the output.
[/quote]You in fact described perfectly what I was trying to say.
(Off topic) >> Last month I recorded an old cassette-tape from the early 80’s into my computer. The content is me talking to my father and grandmother when I was a little boy (yes, I’m that old…..) 😉
Of course there was a lot of noise and ‘phasing’ (due to a awry head in the tape-recorder at that time). I converted the file to a 32bit / 196Khz recording (my soundcard does not support this setting, that’s why I didn’t record it in this quality in the first place). Than I highlighted some noise (without talk) in my editor and ‘told’ the program (Adobe) ‘this is noise’. What you hear after 10hours of calculation is really impressive! You in fact can hear what I was saying at that time 😀
This recording made much improvement in quality, so I believe a sound processor also can do this, but most of the time it just is not desiged to do so. I’ve never heard it (so you was right about that, ‘my experiences’).
I totally agree with you about most so called ‘digitally remasters’ sound like crap. No dynamics anymore and sometimes even hearable distortion. I believe also ‘various-albums’ are often ‘target’ of a lazy sound-technition (in order to let all songs sound ‘the same’).
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But very often when I play some of these "power" productions with my good old Yamaha hi-fi system, I have to think of ‘Back To Future’ the motion picture with Michael J. Fox from 1985 (this scene at the beginning of the movie when he uses the new monster speaker amp system created by Doc Brown – if you don’t know what I am talking about ➡ watch the movie !). [/quote]Are you kidding? The BTTF trioligy is standing next to all Huey Lewis & The News albums in my dvd/cd-rack!
September 12, 2010 at 1:39 pm #11371AnonymousGuest[quote author=”Ivo”]32bit / 196Khz recording![/quote]
Of course I meant 32bit / 192Khz
September 12, 2010 at 9:49 pm #11372michi95Member[quote author=”Ivo”]BTTF trilogy[/quote]I normally don’t like sequel films at all, because it is very often based on "let’s make more money with the same story".
I hate Matrix 2 and 3, because I like the original Matrix film so much.
But BTTF trilogy is definetly one of the rare exceptions ( ➡ ‘Godfather’ just as well).
An intelligent romantic, sci-fi, family drama and comedy trilogy opening the philosophic perspective (where we come from and where we are going to).
Once in every year I have to watch one of these (just to feel better).[quote author=”Ivo”]cassette-tape from the early 80’s[/quote]From time to time I listen to one of my late 80’s, early 90’s cassette-tapes with radio and TV recordings (before we got a VCR I recorded TV comedy on audio cassettes).
I am always astonished how good (interesting and vivid) these sound.
Ignoring the noise and ‘phasing’ problems it is fascinating to listen, because the micro dynamics (transients) are so much better than todays flat loudness.
Todays limited macro dynamics is an advantage, but the general degree of micro dynamics compression is much too high.
Over the last ten years it has been getting more and more difficult to understand what people say in movies or TV, because most processing ignores the natural calibration of the human hearing system (unnatural, damaged transients).
The interaction between ears and brain to decode is based on our natural environment (all the things we hear from the day of our birth and during our childhood).
I am not kidding:
To create an almost perfect sound processing it could help to consult brain researchers and neuroscientists.
But Jesse described Passive Aggressor as a preset that keeps an eye on good micro dynamics (while adjusting macro dynamics in an intelligent way).
So let’s hope that it solves some of our problems.Is it only me or do you count the seconds until Passive Aggressor arrives, too ?
It reminds of Samuel Beckett’s ‘Waiting for Godot’. 😥September 12, 2010 at 11:52 pm #11373AnonymousGuestWhat you discribed is really impressive. I think you and I have a lot in common as it comes to ‘how we think about past and today’s sound-compression’. So I suggest »» Let’s leave our wives at home uncoming summer and let’s go on vacation. We have a lot to talk about 😀
I totally agree on the facts:
– BTTF I have to watch every (half part of the) year! (it´s a life style i guess)
– Old tape recordings quality’s are really impressive and dynamic
– All the other secondairy (third, fourth, whatsoever) movies are made just to get money out of it!But on topic now (which it all started with) »» Leif »» what about our high frequencies and back-end-clipper? I didn’d heard an answer yet 😉
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