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June 19, 2009 at 9:13 am #7505AnonymousGuest
Yup, Leif is right ….. again
If you want to boot from any flash, meaning usb , sd etc please use that EWF filter.
For a project, 3 months ago, I’ve been trying to boot from a USB stick and to be honest it might have to be the most frustrating time of my life.
Mod drivers so the XP setup doesn’t alter the USB devices detect after the first reboot during install, otherwise nice 0x000..7B error.
Then an XP install takes ages and by the time you have the EWF thing up and running you should have been in bed a long time 😉I then switched over to ssd drives but after reading a couple of stories on the net I am starting to get afraid of them.
Seems that, like other flash, they mask the bad ‘sectors’ so you will start to loose free space.June 19, 2009 at 1:26 pm #7506LeifKeymasterHi Luke,
You don’t actually lose free space. That’s impossible — there’s no way the hardware (low-level) can go in and modify the file system (higher level). There’s actually sectors reserved for this purpose, above and beyond the advertised capacity! I have no idea what percentage we’re talking about, but hard drives do the exact same thing. They have a bunch of space reserved, which they will start using to reallocate bad sectors.
XP embedded is real nice, because once you’ve made the image, you don’t need to install it, you just run. Sure, the FBA (First Boot Agent) runs, but that doesn’t take very long, and it’s unattended.
One of these days I will make a video of one of my systems booting, where I have changed the bios logo, windows startup screen etc to my own custom logo, making it look a lot less like a computer and a lot more like hardware. 🙂
///Leif
June 19, 2009 at 4:00 pm #7507AnonymousGuestLeif, I don’t want to scare you off but the read/write cycles amount on those things is far below that of a physical HD so space will degrade alot quicker depending what you do.
Especially swap files are a killer. So for XP I wouldn’t recommend it.
For Vista, or even better Windows 7, 64bit with +20GB ram 🙂 and no swap it would be a good thing. I’ll guess we’ll have to wait a year or 2 before it is like it should be.Also an interesting read
http://perspectives.mvdirona.com/2008/0 … blems.aspxI actually did some calculations for a 1GB Sandisk standard USB stick and the project that I was working on which required constant access to the ‘disc’ (mm sounds weird)
To my calculations the stick would die within 2 months time. 😀 and I must have recalculated it 3 or 4 times.But hey, for a nice decaded audio server/pc an SSD, conventional storage HD, quad core, simple and stable MB with onboard vga and a Juli@ would do perfectly.
I would also like to take heat and power consumption into concideration in choosing the right CPU and MB. (quiet pc and low electricity bill)
Everything audiorelated runs more then smooth on the quadcores or dualcore so why go for the i7 that costs an arm and a legg for 3xddr3 and motherboard prices x 3. The i7 might be fast but the price you pay for the whole package just doesn’t justify the difference to me.My 2 Eurocent, Luke
June 19, 2009 at 5:46 pm #7508LeifKeymasterThanks for the heads-up luke!
I don’t use SSDs in my workstations yet. I use UFDs on utility machines, and just plain hard drives in workstations for temporary storage, and anything non-temporary goes in my server, which has two Raid-5 arrays.
http://leif.cx/photos/latest-projects/s … binet-new/
///Leif
June 19, 2009 at 5:53 pm #7509AnonymousGuest[quote author=”Leif”]Thanks for the heads-up luke!
I don’t use SSDs in my workstations yet. I use UFDs on utility machines, and just plain hard drives in workstations for temporary storage, and anything non-temporary goes in my server, which has two Raid-5 arrays.
http://leif.cx/photos/latest-projects/s … binet-new/
///Leif[/quote]
somehow the 2nd photo scares me 🙂
Lets also say that the top right device reminds me a bit of where I am sitting every day… but lets say the new logo/company 😀June 19, 2009 at 6:11 pm #7510LeifKeymasterI didn’t feel like wasting the money on a server case, so I had a metal worker build me some nice disk towers instead.
I am using a server grade board, 3ware hardware raid-5 controllers, and two enermax supplies (650 and 550w) though. Just not a "normal" server case. Hell, they’re too loud anyway 😉.
///Leif
June 20, 2009 at 5:21 pm #7511JesseGMember[quote author=”luke-san”]Lets also say that the top right device reminds me a bit of where I am sitting every day… but lets say the new logo/company 😀[/quote]
You work at Cisco? noice. 8) I used to be an up to date CCNA, btw. Back before the dot.bomb.
June 20, 2009 at 7:52 pm #7512AnonymousGuest[quote author=”JesseG”][quote author=”luke-san”]Lets also say that the top right device reminds me a bit of where I am sitting every day… but lets say the new logo/company 😀[/quote]
You work at Cisco? noice. 8) I used to be an up to date CCNA, btw. Back before the dot.bomb.[/quote]
I am extracting Leif’s software and hardcoding it in a IOS for a Catalyst switch, hahaha
Leif should put a CE sticker on his ‘closet’.
June 21, 2009 at 2:37 am #7513LeifKeymasterHeh heh 🙂. I actually do care about safety even though it may not look like it. Unlike common practice in Thailand, all my equipment is grounded, and protected with 4 stages of surge protection (two inside power strips, one in the UPS, and one (the first stage) in the form of dual 6A breakers, cutting both live and neutral, followed by a surge arrestor. There’s also about 20 knots in the supply cable before the first set of breakers.
In the rainy season in Thailand, there’s rain and thunder absolutely every day. Having to shut down and unplug the server every day turned out not to be feasible. Not only is it no good for the drives to be shut down that often, but while the server is down I can’t work.
A nice advantage to having a big cabinet instead of a small normal server case is that I can use 120mm fans instead of the Soloviev-like microscopic fans that are common in servers, which would make it unbearable to be in the same room. This server actually makes no more noise than the air conditioner! 🙂
///Leif
September 29, 2011 at 7:06 am #7514AnonymousGuestDoes this sound like a good audio/video/graphic design pc build?
HD video editing is probably the most intensive thing I would use the computer for. I’d use Handbrake a lot, for switching video formats. Adobe CS5. In audio, my most intensive projects would be synth based orchestral, and layered electronic music. …and I doubt I’d stress the system much with webpage design and 2D digital art.Also, I would be doing gaming on PC, because I’m moving away from consoles as much as I can (b/c of backwards compatibility issues). I picked a video card that (I think) is better than current gen consoles (for graphics quality) but isn’t a professional video card.
I haven’t upgraded my computer in about 6 years, so I’m I’ve used benchmarks and visits to Best Buy (display pcs) as a reference.
Let me know if these parts are adequate for my intended usage, and if there are places that I could save money.
CPU: i7 2600k 3.4ghz quad
MEM: Corsair Vengeance 12gb kit (3x4GB)
MOBO: Asus Sabertooth P67
GPU: GeForce GTX 570
HDD 1: OCZ Vert 2 120GB SS
HDD2: Seagate XT 2TB 6gb/s
HDD3: Seagate Green 2TB 6gb/s
PWR: Cooler Master Silent Pro Gold 800Watt
OPT: Pioneer BD-R 12x
OS: Win 7 64 Bit Pro
AUDIO: (probably) RME HDSP 9632
CPU FAN: Noctura 6 (or) Zalman w/ red LED
dual monitors (I have a HP 22" now; I may add another to match that, or sell it and get two ASUS monitors, I’m not sure yet, but the Apple monitors are out of my range).Any suggestions would be helpful. I considered a i7 990x or waiting for Ivy Bridge, but I’d rather get other components and take a speed drop. Keep in mind that I also want to get a: control surface, e-drums, a large WACOM pad, a new electric guitar, a bass guitar, a keyboard controller, and a few other things, so I only want to spend lots of money in the most important spots.
In Handbrake, currently, if I convert a large (8-15gb) mkv to mv4, it takes me all day, and I’d rather it be within an hour.
September 29, 2011 at 8:01 am #7515JesseGMemberThe GPU is about as pro as you can get tho. Quadra offers no advantages anymore. I have a GTX 460 and I can play any game at 1080 usually on maxed settings, or rarely at almost maxed settings, and get above 60 FPS at all times. i7 860, so your CPU is a hair faster too. 300 GB/s SSD as well.
Btw, the graphics quality BLOWS AWAY the current consoles.
You’ll be very happy with that system. 🙂
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