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[quote author=”Wharfe”]I didn’t realize Tornado was a plugin, I thought it was just a preset. What does it do exactly? Why should it not be used? I don’t know anything about it, haven’t tried it yet.[/quote]
It gives more ‘body’ to your sound and it give more a ‘jumps off the dial’ sound. Try it and you hear it.
Breakaway doesn’t sound anything like this even when it’s abused on purpose (try New York preset with max speed & +6db drive on for size, it doesn’t sound too good 😉 but it still sounds way better than this stream)
Something else is distorting on his setup big time.
[quote author=”Erwin”][quote author=”Wharfe”]I didn’t realize Tornado was a plugin, I thought it was just a preset. What does it do exactly? Why should it not be used? I don’t know anything about it, haven’t tried it yet.[/quote]
It gives more ‘body’ to your sound and it give more a ‘jumps off the dial’ sound. Try it and you hear it.[/quote]
No, it doesn’t. "body" is generally used to define a frequency range between 250 and 400 hz. And "jumps off the dial" is totally meaningless.
What it really does is makes all of the transients sound like LASERs. It was only created to allow people to listen to one of the main aspects of a "particular 31-band processor" which makes that processor sound like TOTAL CRAP.
If you like it, you don’t have proper listening experience and/or gear (or massive hearing damage). Don’t believe me, try it out for your self. Chain 10 of them together…. That LASER sound is still on EVERYTHING, just lower density and maybe you can’t hear it, but MANY people can – plain as day. In fact the better listeners people are, the more easily they consciously hear it. But just because a listener isn’t consciously aware of something, doesn’t mean they don’t hear it. And doesn’t mean they won’t like listening to your stream because of that, even if they don’t know why.
Also to remember that unless you have a reference quality system for monitoring, it’s very likely that any changes that sound "better" (subjective, impossible to prove scientifically) on your system, then it’s very likely it’ll sound worse on a majority of other systems.
I’ve got a studio monitor setup I am using, that’s what I was listening on to configure the station. I tried the tornado plugin but I don’t think I could get it working properly because I couldn’t hear a difference.
But from what JesseG is saying, it does sound to me that might seem to sound better on cheap speakers, etc, but in fact isn’t good sounding at all.
[quote author=”Wharfe”]I’ve got a studio monitor setup I am using, that’s what I was listening on to configure the station. I tried the tornado plugin but I don’t think I could get it working properly because I couldn’t hear a difference.
But from what JesseG is saying, it does sound to me that might seem to sound better on cheap speakers, etc, but in fact isn’t good sounding at all.[/quote]
Buy new ears if you can’t hear any difference…
Like I said, I don’t think it was working at all, I’ll have to try it again and see if I can get it to work.
You must press the reload button after you select the plugin to hear any difference. Inform us when the plugin is online. I like to hear it.
ToooOOoOOoooooornado……plugin.. is great…but only with normal ..clipping and normal multiband overdrive.. ..so that’s why it doesn’t sound good with my preset.
also, don’t forget that my stream is MONO . not STEREO….so that makes your listening experience…worse..with my stream 🙁the MAIN problem of my distortion was …75msec preemfasis which is not the most ideal for the preset i made..
now i use 50 msec preemfasis which is good for my FM broadcast setup and for the stream also!can you all please check it again and hear for more than 10 minutes?
( the greek music record companies do a lot lot lot of multiband overdrive..on their mastering..that’s why it’s difficult to be loud and clean in greece…)
check plzzzmms://1045fm.live24.gr/1045fm
http://1045fm.live24.gr/1045fm/😯
The distortion is NOT because of Breakaway. I keep telling you that you can’t make it sound even remotely this bad with ANY abuse of it’s settings. AND YOU’RE NOT LISTENING TO ME.
Also, you are streaming in stereo, even if your audio is mono. I’m looking at it right now. It’s 64kbps 48kHz Stereo, using WMA SDK v11.0.6001.7000, and you’re pushing it to WM Server v9.5.
Figure out your distortion problem first. Because NOTHING sounds great through this crap. Least of all Tornado. (and please stop using tons of extra letters and punctuation)
You should lower your soundcards "wave" volume then..
i had never complains from listeners,
we are having more than 2400 peak listeners that hear this stream at morning and more than 42000 unique listeners per day.
NO ONE has complained !something is wrong with your way ..of sound taste.
i don’t want zero compression
i don’t want zero clipping
i don;t want zero limiting,i want normal compression, normal clipping, high bass and trebble
that’s my taste.
don’t shoot![quote author=”camclone”]
something is wrong with your way ..of sound taste.
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Sorry, but if you can’t hear how bad it sounds, something is wrong with your ears …you where right
the distortion problem was becuse of high volume.
now it’s ok,the FM sound was much much different than this we were hearing in that stream,.
i think i fixed it.
nevermind.
yes it is,
if you are on 3 main greek portal websites, it is.we are one of the biggest radio stations in coverege here in the greek islands. (greece)
and the 2nd in poppularity.
i fixed it!!!
the problem was NOT ONLY the volume level in the streaming server..mixer..
it was on bass, it was on limiters..
it was messed up.. 🙂
you were right.
cheap speakers = messnow it;s clearer and louder than ever! ( time 3 am , saturday – gmt+2)
( i opened the stereo, we are broadcasting again at full power ) ( 60 kwatts with the antennas)Hey Camclone, make sure to make use of the oscilloscopes built into BBP.
If you see squarewave on the input, that’s a bad, bad, bad thing.
If you see squarewave on the output, that’s not quite as bad (it’s partly by design), but if it looks like there is no breathing room, it will sound like it too, and TSL will drop like a stone.
Best,
///Leif
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