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@antonlamers, You really need to get those waves bigger in the scope to set the tilt ultra-accurately. There’s alot going on in the tops and bottoms there and you might be able to flatten them out if you can increase the level going into the scope and get a nice clean noise free wave going in.
Yorkie.
I have also a moded m-audio 192 does it need tilt ? and if yes could somenone share the value please ?
Thanks in advance
🙂[quote author=”djscooby”]I have also a moded m-audio 192 does it need tilt ? and if yes could somenone share the value please ?
Thanks in advance
🙂[/quote]The M-audio card needs to be modded to bring it’s square wave distortion down to an acceptable level to be tilt adjustable, it still needs to have the tilt set.
Again, as mentioned many times before, there is no common value for any card as every soundcard (even of the same type) will have a different tilt value, it also varies depending upon what you are connecting it to so unfortunately, the only way to set the tilt is to measure and set it up yourself as per the instructions on the main website.[quote author=”yorkie98″][quote author=”djscooby”]I have also a moded m-audio 192 does it need tilt ? and if yes could somenone share the value please ?
Thanks in advance
🙂[/quote]The M-audio card needs to be modded to bring it’s square wave distortion down to an acceptable level to be tilt adjustable, it still needs to have the tilt set.
Again, as mentioned many times before, there is no common value for any card as every soundcard (even of the same type) will have a different tilt value, it also varies depending upon what you are connecting it to so unfortunately, the only way to set the tilt is to measure and set it up yourself as per the instructions on the main website.[/quote]Thanks yorkie for the advice i’ll do that…. When i get and oscilloscope..
Btw i also have another 192 khz capable card… Its called quartet from infrasonic… have you or anybody else used it whats you opinion its worth to replace m audio with this ?
Thanks in advance
Hi folks!
Let me ask you about this M-Audio Audiophile 192 mod.
Which capacitors have to be modded?
I’m searching for the tutorial here and in Google but I can’t find it!
Can someone help me? =)
Thanks!!!
Junior.
Instructions on how to calibrate tilt (can be done without an oscilliscope)..
http://www.claessonedwards.com/index.ph … &Itemid=84M-audio card mod seems to have been removed from the site since the relaunch, maybe someone still has the mod details, I can’t seem to find it anymore.
Hi Yorkie, thanks so much for your reply!
So, I have already done the tilt, a huge tilt! (87)
But I want to mod my Audiophile 192 to get better results without this massive tilt.
If someone has this tutorial, please, send me!
Thanks and kindest regards.
Junior.
link not lost, just not found, until now. 😉
http://mpxtool.com/site/hardware-mods/3 … 2-mod.html[quote author=”JesseG”]link not lost, just not found, until now. 😉
http://mpxtool.com/site/hardware-mods/3 … 2-mod.html[/quote]Aha, I tried looking on the MPX tool for this link last week but the site was down with a "domain for sale" sign on it..
Glad to get it back, all very useful info..[quote author=”rdr”]Hello,
I have an ESI Juli@ and I’ve the TILT adusted at 21 😮
Why????[/quote]
Because that fixes the low frequency tilt ❓Yeah, ok.
But 21 is a normal value??
Other users in the forum said that they have the Tilt value adjusted at 2 or 7, using the Juli@ too 😕[quote author=”rdr”]Yeah, ok.
But 21 is a normal value??
Other users in the forum said that they have the Tilt value adjusted at 2 or 7, using the Juli@ too 😕[/quote]
I guess it’s always possible they changed something, or hacked in some caps (capacitors) on it, or they changed the settings into the filtering in the DAC.Leif some years ago had said he was going to post a mod for the Juli@ which involved cutting one trace (my guess, on a pin to the DAC which tells it to do high-pass filtering). I’ll ask him if he ever posted this, unless someone else comes up with a link, since he mentioned this before, but I can’t find any articles on MpxTool.com (and i have admin access so i can see un-published articles).
Odd. 😉 But yeah, that’s a possibility that something changed.
RodeoJack mentions that he had 3 that all required a tilt setting of 10, earlier in this topic.
[quote author=”rdr”]Yeah, ok.
But 21 is a normal value??
Other users in the forum said that they have the Tilt value adjusted at 2 or 7, using the Juli@ too 😕[/quote]I’ve typically found 3-4 to be the correct tilt for a Maya44 or Juli@ but I always use the same professional trransmitter so I get consistant results, a different transmitter connected inline might give a different result. You did have the transmitter connected too right??
It is also possible that the manufacturer have changed the design, caps etc which may have affected this or it may even be that your scope (or whatever you are using) it not calibrated properly. Did you connect a known squarewave source first such as a parallel port pulsing at 60Hz or a signal generator? If not, then you need to know that your scope is reading flat before setting the tilt.
This all goes to further prove my assertion that there is no one-fits-all tilt value for any soundcard. So many other factors can affect the tilt.
HTH
Yorkie..
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