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December 23, 2010 at 6:25 pm #11597

knigget
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[quote author=”Guillou”]Maybe a bug, when you change the name of log file, it doesn’t work. It only take the default name.[/quote]I had an ‘episode like this the other night, turns out I’d made the log file read only and forgotten! Also, a lot of changes (like genre, url etc) only take effect once you have quit BAL (thus ending Edcast) and restarted.

[quote author=”Guillou”]Moreover, in the installation program, I can’t install it in another path than c:program fileswinamp… the install button can’t be clicked.[/quote]I had this as well – I have this running on a VM and really didn’t want to install Winamp but its done now I guess. Even with the original Edcast, I got the impression that there was something within the Winamp program folder that was crucial for Edcast to run….?

December 23, 2010 at 11:01 pm #11598

radiorio
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[quote author=”knigget”]Also, a lot of changes (like genre, url etc) only take effect once you have quit BAL (thus ending Edcast) and restarted.[/quote]
That is a shoutcast issue, assuming shoutcast streaming – genre etc is set on connection
[quote author=”knigget”]I had this as well – I have this running on a VM and really didn’t want to install Winamp but its done now I guess. Even with the original Edcast, I got the impression that there was something within the Winamp program folder that was crucial for Edcast to run….?[/quote]
dsp version of edcast install uses the registry to find where winamp is installed, and will only install there – I could change it, or make a separate installer for "non winamp" dsp install

December 23, 2010 at 11:03 pm #11599

radiorio
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[quote author=”Guillou”]Maybe a bug, when you change the name of log file, it doesn’t work. It only take the default name.
I installed it for Brekaway live and it always restart when you click "connect" only if you select somme attenuation ! (ex : -2db)
Moreover, in the installation program, I can’t install it in another path than c:program fileswinamp… the install button can’t be clicked.[/quote]
I had to change things quite a bit to properly support windows 7 – it may need some more tweaking

the per stream attenuation had two big bugs, fixed last night

December 23, 2010 at 11:19 pm #11600

Guillou
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[quote author=”radiorio”]
dsp version of edcast install uses the registry to find where winamp is installed, and will only install there – I could change it, or make a separate installer for "non winamp" dsp install[/quote]

It would be great !

December 23, 2010 at 11:22 pm #11601

Guillou
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[quote author=”radiorio”][quote author=”Guillou”]Maybe a bug, when you change the name of log file, it doesn’t work. It only take the default name.
I installed it for Brekaway live and it always restart when you click "connect" only if you select somme attenuation ! (ex : -2db)
Moreover, in the installation program, I can’t install it in another path than c:program fileswinamp… the install button can’t be clicked.[/quote]
I had to change things quite a bit to properly support windows 7 – it may need some more tweaking

the per stream attenuation had two big bugs, fixed last night[/quote]

I use the latest version and I have always the attenuation bug.
Is the newest version online ?
For information, I run it on Windows 7 and windows 2003 server.

December 23, 2010 at 11:42 pm #11602

radiorio
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newest version – 3.2.23.121 – is online – other people have reported attenuation now works

December 24, 2010 at 8:09 am #11603

Guillou
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Thanks,

It works perfectly now !
Attenuation is ok!
It’s a big christmas gift.

December 24, 2010 at 9:55 am #11604

radiorio
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another little change to attenuation … rather than combobox, enter a (positive) decimal value for finer control

Merry Christmas to all

December 24, 2010 at 12:04 pm #11605

sebastien.wittebolle
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Hello Radiorio , thank you for your great program , i use it for my little webradio 😉

Merry Christmas at you and all people on this forum, and at leif 😀

February 21, 2011 at 7:30 am #11606

Audio
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Speaking of Edcast, encoders and the likes, I am wondering how to get the best possible mp3 @ 64k stream online. We are encoding all kinds of streams from 64k to 320k, but I have to say our mp3 64k stream is a shame! What should one do to get the best possible result at this rate? Any hope? 🙂 Thanks,

Audio

February 21, 2011 at 12:30 pm #11607

timmywa
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[quote author=”Audio”]Speaking of Edcast, encoders and the likes, I am wondering how to get the best possible mp3 @ 64k stream online. We are encoding all kinds of streams from 64k to 320k, but I have to say our mp3 64k stream is a shame! What should one do to get the best possible result at this rate? Any hope? 🙂 Thanks,

Audio[/quote]
I would submit you go mono with that low MP3. That way it’s truly 64kbps, as opposed to two 32kb/s streams combined. I’m sure there’s more to it than that and others might have better news.

February 21, 2011 at 9:43 pm #11608

JesseG
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I don’t think I have it anymore, but I made a custom Lame for going 32kHz joint stereo @ 64kbps that was actually not half bad, and we used it at radioio for some years. It still wasn’t magic, but it was acceptable compared to our 64kbps WMA8 streams at the time. (WMA10 uses SBR and PS so it just destroys mp3 for low bitrate now)

Joint Stereo does really work well though, so it’s not like two 32kbps streams exactly. In fact if you run pure mono through it, you’ll get the exact same quality as a mono stream at the same bitrate.

Overall though, I would have to suggest not even offering an mp3 stream under 96kbps at the lowest. There isn’t even a point to having a 64kbps stream anyways, because it doesn’t work over a modem. Even 32kbps is pushing it really.

What I would do is get rid of any mp3 streams below 128kbps, and then offer at least one PS-AAC stream at 24kbps for modem listeners. Then optionally a second PS-AAC stream at 48kbps. The quality of either of these totally annihilates a joint stereo mp2 at 64kbps, even what I remember about my customized Lame. Sad but true.

February 22, 2011 at 5:46 am #11609

Audio
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Thanks Jesse & Timmywa! I would love for us to drop this 64k stream 🙄 We are however stuck with a mobile app that has to play "no more" than 64k and in mp3 for some phones that can not read aac+ streams… thus my problem… 😯

February 22, 2011 at 8:32 pm #11610

Boki
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[quote author=”Audio”]Thanks Jesse & Timmywa! I would love for us to drop this 64k stream 🙄 We are however stuck with a mobile app that has to play "no more" than 64k and in mp3 for some phones that can not read aac+ streams… thus my problem… 😯[/quote]
That’s the info what is missed. For what purposes exactly stream will be.

For mobile phones, iPhone, allAndroid… There is big problem, and not only on Server side, but on client side. What players they will use? Big question.

I done some test with Samsung Galaxy 9000 S.
What is First most stupid thing is that simple mp3 stream will NOT work with AndroidWinamp! Implemented players too.

So, Best what i can done is to put AAC (low rate) in FLA!
Patched IceCast Server with mountpoint yourstation.fla and some simple Web Player, like JWPlayer. Users will only need to open site. And music is there.

February 23, 2011 at 7:59 am #11611

JesseG
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[quote author=”Boki”]So, Best what i can done is to put AAC (low rate) in FLA!
Patched IceCast Server with mountpoint yourstation.fla and some simple Web Player, like JWPlayer. Users will only need to open site. And music is there.[/quote]

That works, but JW and flash player in general still are causing a "memory leak" of sorts from that, right? Or has that been fixed now?
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