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June 13, 2010 at 11:36 pm #10701MilkyKeymaster
It looks like you have BA set to 48000, and your audio device only supports the standard 44100. Select 44.1k in BA and you should be good.
June 15, 2010 at 5:37 pm #10702AnonymousGuestHi,
I’ve got the outputs on BADJ set at 44.1 and I’m still getting the error message.
I have OTS looking at the Gigaport as the output.
Please advise.
Dave
ps. Thanks Milky for your help. Much appreciated.
June 15, 2010 at 10:20 pm #10703Dr.JMember[quote author=”winsorpd”]Hi,
Error starting audio engine:
Core 1: Unable to open "Gigaport AG"
for output at 48000hz, 2 channels, 16 bits.
Device does not support requested format, or sound device is busy
[/quote]From a quick look on the Web, it looks like your soundcard has 8 output channels. Make sure you change the output of BADJ to 8 channels so it matches, and you should be able to leave it at 48kHz – 16bits as this is also supported. I would also make sure you have the latest soundcard drivers from ESI’s website.
June 15, 2010 at 10:38 pm #10704MilkyKeymasterHere are my settings which work:-
in BADJ "Signal Settings"
Interface=KS
Audio Device=Breakaway Pipeline 1
Buffer Size=512
Buffer Count=3
Sample Rate=44100
Channels=2
ASIO Device=M-Audio Delta (Change this to your sound card)
Output L1=SPDIF out L
Output R1=SPDIF out R
ASIO Config=44100HzIn OtsAV the output setting is "1/2 Breakaway DJ ASIO"
June 16, 2010 at 5:22 pm #10705AnonymousGuestHi,
Updated the drivers, and I’m making some progress, but still not quite right.
What should I choose here?and here:
When I think I’ve got it, I get outputs 2 and 3 active on the Gigaport AG.
Help.
Dave
June 16, 2010 at 5:28 pm #10706AnonymousGuestSorry to make you squint:
June 16, 2010 at 9:58 pm #10707MilkyKeymasterDave, it is very hard to read your screen dumps. I’m only using one of the two available cores, so my comments relate only to a single stereo pair. You have to get your head around the fact that you are interposing another "device" in your audio chain immediately after Ots and before your mixer/amplifier or tx hardware. Therefore, you must set Ots’ output to send to Breakaway’s input, and Breakaway’s output to your sound card’s inputs. From there on, everything remains the same.
If you go back to the settings I posted, you will see in Ots I have "1/2 Breakaway DJ ASIO" selected. This sends the output from Ots through the BADJ pipeline.
In the Breakaway I/O configuration dialogue (second screen dump), the input should be "Breakaway Pipeline 1" for the first core, "Pipeline 2" for the second core if you are using (I have "off" selected).
Now, here’s where it varies a bit, because I have an M-Audio card and you have a Gigaport, so the options will be different. "Output L1" should be set to a left channel input to the Gigaport, whose output in turn will be connected to the Left input of your mixer or whatever is next in your audio chain. Similarly, "Output R1" should be set to a Right channel input to the Gigaport, whose output in turn will be connected to the Right input of your mixer or whatever is next in your audio chain.
The only other thing to do is ensure that all the inputs and outputs have the same frequency selected. Any mixture of 48k and 4.1k will result in bo output, or problem with up- and down-converting. Start with 44.1 for Ots, your sound card and BADJ. IF your card supports it AND you have ripped your music in 48,000, you could change to 48k later.
Incidentally, I don’t have "Audio Realtime Priority" checked and still experience near zero latency, but it will depend on the grunt your PC has.
June 16, 2010 at 11:00 pm #10708AnonymousGuestHi,
Thank you so much for your thoughtful reply.
If I set OTS output to 1/2 Gigaport AG ASIO then BADJ doesn’t respond.
If I set OTS output to Pipeline 1 then I can see the BADJ processing and passing audio to the Gigaport card.I’m really having difficulty setting up the BADJ program so I can direct output from the BADJ program to the Gigaport card.
If I set L1 output to Gigaport 1/2 and R1 to Gigaport 3/4 then the status lights on channel 1 and channel 3 on the card light up.
I cant seem to be able to set L1 to channel 1 and R1 the channel 2 on the Gigaport as if BADJ wasn’t in line. I’m probably missing something easy, but I can find it.
Dave
June 17, 2010 at 12:46 am #10709MilkyKeymasterIt’s hard to see from the screen dumps what all the Gigaport options are for output. I would have thought there would be a Gigaport 1, Gigaport 2 etc as separate outputs. Is there any reason why you are not using SPDIF output instead? I’m guessing you are going to an analogue mixer.
If Channels 1 and 3 are lighting up, it looks like the signal is getting through BADJ and into the sound card. My M-Audio has SPDIF output, as well as four analogue channels, so it is similar to your Gigaport (except 4 channels short). In Breakaway, the output selections are Analogue out 1/2 L and Analogue out 1/2 R, SPDIF out L and SPDIF out R, so yu can see there is a separate selection for left and right per pair of outputs.
Is there anything you need to un-mute in the Gigaport software? If you click on the "ASIO Config" button in BA, it should spawn your Gigaport control panel. Maybe something there is turned all the way down?
June 17, 2010 at 6:49 am #10710Dr.JMemberIt’s kinda hard to read but if I’m correct, you want one of the following settings depending on your needs:
1) For a single output from OtsAV, having the audio mixed within OtsAV –
A) On-Air output device = 1/2 : Breakaway DJ ASIO
B) Output L1 = GIGAPort #12
C) Output R1 = GIGAPort #22) For a dual output from OtsAV, having the audio mixed with an external mixer –
A) On-Air output device = 1/2 : Breakaway DJ ASIO
B) ASIO cue & live input:-Cue: 3/4C) Output L1 = GIGAPort #12
D) Output R1 = GIGAPort #2
E) Output L2 = GIGAPort #34
F) Output R2 = GIGAPort #4June 17, 2010 at 9:20 am #10711AnonymousGuestHowdy,
Here is what is REALLY confusing: I set my system up as you suggested and it bypassed BADJ.
If I choose Gigaport AG Asio on OTS, it sends the signal to the USB soundcard and BYPASSES BADJ!
If I choose Pipeline 1, it goes to BADJ and NOT to the Gigaport soundcard.I’m really confused.
Should I uninstall BADJ and start over?
Thanks so much. I hope to find my mistake here soon with ALL your support.
Best,
Dave
June 17, 2010 at 11:02 am #10712MilkyKeymasterPoint 1: If you DON’T select Pipeline 1 in Ots, the audio will NEVER get to BADJ, and therefore NEVER be processed. That’s why you can hear it when you select the alternative – because it is going straight through Ots to your audio chain, not through Breakaway.
Point 2: There is SOMETHING stopping you from hearing BADJ output via your gigaport card. If you were hearing processed audio before via your internal soundcard, it should be a simple matter of selecting the Gigaport card (assuming it is plugged in at the time) in the settings in BADJ. Now, if you can’t hear anything when you toggle to the AG card, there must be a setting within the AG card setup that is stopping the sound from coming through.
Dave, work through this logically from end to end. Draw yourself a diagram on paper/whiteboard/whatever and mark the inputs and outputs as you go. I am happy to work with you to resolve this. Just hang in there.
June 17, 2010 at 12:50 pm #10713AnonymousGuestHi Milky,
That makes a lot of sense. BTW, I tend to get in a FOG when I’m tracing issues back and forth. I’ll work with a chart today and see what happens.
Thanks,
Dave
June 17, 2010 at 5:12 pm #10714AnonymousGuestFINALLY!
During the clear light of day (with lots of help from Milky) I got it. Don’t remember exactly what did, but it sounds great.
Now, what to do with this flowchart.
Dave
June 17, 2010 at 5:18 pm #10715Dr.JMemberHi Dave,
Sorry if I wasn’t clear enough on the settings I recommended for you to try. I’ll try to clarify.
In the OtsAV output window (your first image), you want to select "1/2 : Breakaway DJ ASIO" for the On-Air output device.
Now in the Breakaway DJ I/O configuration window (your second image), you want to select "GIGAPort #12" for Output L1 and "GIGAPort #2" for Output R1.
This is the basic inputs/outputs you will need, so give it a shot and report back.
*** Looks like you got things worked out while I was writing this response. Glad you got it all sorted out.***
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