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  • #10610
    michi95
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    [quote author=”hank.dussen”]Leif, you were right, as always I guess. 😮 The fading works as usual again! Thanks!! By the way is there any disadvantage using this option? [/quote]Yes !

    But, there is a very simple and much better solution for this "problem".
    I have just stumbled over it.

    The problem with this tweak to enable Volume Control inside the Breakaway Pipeline Config
    tool is that you are fooling Breakaway’s processing (a little bit).
    [quote author=”Leif”]When the user tries to lower the volume in this manner, Breakaway will see a quiet input signal and do it’s job and increase the level again, until it runs out of range.

    In fact, this very situation is the reason the volume controls are disabled by default, as conceptually, it cannot work. And, when things fail even in theory, practice doesn’t stand a chance.[/quote] :mrgreen:
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    The more you decrease, the more Breakaway’s internal processing will be irritated.
    But in practice if the level decreasing and increasing range for the input is very narrow, more or less +- 6 dB the impact is relative marginal.

    That is the reason why I have used the Volume Control tweak in Breakaway Pipeline Config, too.

    But now (since Yesterday – happened by coincidence to this discussion here) I am using Volumouse.
    http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/volumouse.html
    This is a freeware tool that can "hijack" the global control of the mouse wheel.
    It is even possible to use it without pressing an additional key (change default options) !
    If you need the standard control of the mouse wheel back it is quite simple:
    Disable Volumouse in the tray and you can use the mouse wheel as before.

    It does not work with Breakaway Pipeline (not on my machine).
    You have to select the device that you have selected as output inside the Breakaway I/O configuration.

    In my case I have selected "Realtek HD Audio output" (master volume control
    inside Volumouse options).

    I highly recommend to tweak the "More" settings inside Volumouse options to your
    individual needs.

    I think Volumouse is an absolute must have tool !

    And finally a clean solution for this volume control "problem". 😀

    #10611
    Leif
    Keymaster

    There is no disadvantage for a system used for broadcasting as there’s no way you’d try to adjust your listening level by adjusting the player. //Leif

    #10612
    JesseG
    Member

    [quote author=”Leif”]There is no disadvantage for a system used for broadcasting as there’s no way you’d try to adjust your listening level by adjusting the player. //Leif[/quote]

    Yep. The only disadvantage at face value is that Windows’ volume control changing could potentially introduce zipper noise into the signal depending on how the soundcard drivers handle it. That’s one area I haven’t done much experimenting in.

    #10613
    michi95
    Member

    😕
    It seems to me that this discussion is full of misunderstandings.
    As if everybody misunderstands everybody else to at least some degree.

    I have read the whole topic again and again.
    But it is still not clear to me if we are talking about manual volume slider adjustment or some kind of software based fading.

    [quote author=”Leif”]There is no disadvantage for a system used for broadcasting as there’s no way you’d try to adjust your listening level by adjusting the player. //Leif[/quote]Is this an answer about the BA Pipeline Config enabled volume control ?
    Or is it based on the suggested usage of Volumouse ?

    Please, Leif try use other words for "as there’s no way you’d try to adjust your listening level by adjusting the player".
    My English is too limited to understand what you wanted to say with these words.
    Maybe this topic is infected by a special "misundertanding virus" ?
    😕

    #10614
    JesseG
    Member

    Software control of the volume slider in windows.

    Weird? Yes. Have I seen it done before? Absolutely. Ever used Real Player? 😉

    #10615
    hank.dussen
    Member

    Thanks again everybody for your interest in this, for radio, very important subject! 😮 To overcome misunderstanding I’ll explain my situation a bit more. At the moment I’m testing both Raduga and/or Sam Broadcaster. Don’t know which to chose yet. Raduga is great, much more expensive. But both program do have an automatic fading option, which I have activated. But if I understand the mouse freeware option well, it is can be very useful if you do live broadcasts, which I don’t want to do in future.

    @ all breakaway users. One thing isn’t still clear to me; does anybody have had or remarked a problem using the volume control option? Once again thanks for your interest and replies! Best regards Hank. 😕

    #10616
    Leif
    Keymaster

    [quote author=”michi95″]Please, Leif try use other words for "as there’s no way you’d try to adjust your listening level by adjusting the player".[/quote]

    The only reason the Pipeline volume control is disabled by default, is that I anticipated that users of BAE (who are not usually audio professionals) would attempt to adjust their speaker volume by adjusting the volume control in their favourite player, like they’ve always done. This would work for a little while, until Breakaway adjusts its gain upwards. It would be a chase until Breakaway runs out of range, and my fear was that people would then complain "Breakaway doesn’t fix the volume problems, some songs are still loud, others are still quiet".

    So, instead I figured it was better to break the volume control completely, making them use Breakaway’s volume control instead, which is AFTER the processing so it doesn’t cause that problem.

    So, what I meant by my comment was:

    "Hank IS an audio professional, and would not make this mistake, so there is no problem with turning volume control on.".

    "There is no way X" usually means "I don’t think X will happen" 🙂.

    The answer is entirely based on the pipeline volume control.

    BTW, English is my second language, not my first 😉.

    ///Leif

    #10617
    sunveer
    Member

    I have tried Volumouse. I have selected High Definition Audio Device as master device and moreover in the More options. But still on scrolling Breakaway pipeline volume control is moved and not the High Definition Audio Device.

    Please tell me how to take control of my HD device.

    #10618
    sunveer
    Member

    [quote author=”sunveer”]I have tried Volumouse. I have selected High Definition Audio Device as master device and moreover in the More options. But still on scrolling Breakaway pipeline volume control is moved and not the High Definition Audio Device.

    Please tell me how to take control of my HD device.[/quote]

    Found it. I have selected Speakers in Component option and now its working.

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