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Oops! That sounds like a bug. Obviously I screwed something up when I rewrote the load/save settings code (for performance reasons). I will look into it ASAP — thanks guys!
Please note that this only affects Breakaway Live — i didn’t touch the settings code in Breakaway Broadcast, performance was never an issue there since it has much fewer parameters than Breakaway Live.
///Leif
Emano, let us know how it goes 🙂.
Maczrool, bug fixed — http://www.claessonedwards.com/beta/bre … .90.81.exe . Nice catch!
///Leif
I downloaded this version, so that my soundcard is ASIO, really good with the buffer to 256, 48000Hz, thanks for the program is really good.
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Buffer size 256 at 48000 is actually quite long.
256 / 48000 * 1000 = 5.3333
That’s 5.3 milliseconds per buffer. You need one buffer for input, one buffer for output, and one buffer for processing. That’s 16 milliseconds of delay — just to get in and out of the computer! We haven’t even done any processing yet. If we add the BBP ASIO low latency algorithm, which is about 12ms, we’re way above the echo fusion threshold already.
256 at 192000, on the other hand:
256 / 192000 * 1000 = 1.33ms
Three buffers of that is 4ms. Add the 12ms algorithm delay, and 1 extra millisecond of buffering delay, and there’s the 17ms I’ve been bragging about. 🙂
You can get the same short delay at 48000 Hz, but you’ll have to use 64 samples per block, not 256.
///Leif
[quote author=”Leif”]Buffer size 256 at 48000 is actually quite long.
256 / 48000 * 1000 = 5.3333
That’s 5.3 milliseconds per buffer. You need one buffer for input, one buffer for output, and one buffer for processing. That’s 16 milliseconds of delay — just to get in and out of the computer! We haven’t even done any processing yet. If we add the BBP ASIO low latency algorithm, which is about 12ms, we’re way above the echo fusion threshold already.
256 at 192000, on the other hand:
256 / 192000 * 1000 = 1.33ms
Three buffers of that is 4ms. Add the 12ms algorithm delay, and 1 extra millisecond of buffering delay, and there’s the 17ms I’ve been bragging about. 🙂
You can get the same short delay at 48000 Hz, but you’ll have to use 64 samples per block, not 256.
///Leif[/quote]
What buffersize is the best to use in BBP ?
I use here 256 / 192000 is this correct ?In BBP ASIO, 192000/256 is the best, if your computer can handle it.
Next best is 192000/512.In standard BBP, it doesn’t really matter — it’s nowhere near realtime latency.
///Leif
Hi Leif,
The Challenger Stereo Enhancer sounds fab – great stuff! 😀
Just noticed this evening while playing "Blue Boy – Remember Me" that Challenger is neither widening or narrowing the stereo image for this song on any band…
It works great for all other songs – and I have tested quite a few! 🙂
The source is a 44Khz 16 Bit Stereo PCM .WAV file ripped directly from CD single.
See the screenshot below for settings etc:[attachment=0:q8rpt9p9]Blue Boy – 1997 – Remember Me.JPG[/attachment:q8rpt9p9]
Any ideas?
Could it be detecting it as a mono signal by any chance?Thanks,
ConorYep. It detects if a signal is mono or not. 8) Actually… it’s quite a bit more advanced than that. But "yep" is a good short answer, no?
[quote author=”Conor Hyland”]Hi Leif,
The Challenger Stereo Enhancer sounds fab – great stuff! 😀
Just noticed this evening while playing "Blue Boy – Remember Me" that Challenger is neither widening or narrowing the stereo image for this song on any band…
It works great for all other songs – and I have tested quite a few! 🙂
The source is a 44Khz 16 Bit Stereo PCM .WAV file ripped directly from CD single.
See the screenshot below for settings etc:Any ideas?
Could it be detecting it as a mono signal by any chance?Thanks,
Conor[/quote]
I have a rip of that song from CD and the Stereo enhancer works fine with it. You must have a mono recording of it.[quote author=”Conor Hyland”]Hi Leif,
The Challenger Stereo Enhancer sounds fab – great stuff! 😀
Just noticed this evening while playing "Blue Boy – Remember Me" that Challenger is neither widening or narrowing the stereo image for this song on any band…
[/quote]Awesome! That means it’s working PERFECTLY! 🙂
I remember that song very well. There may be two channels on the CD, but that song is mono. There’s nothing to widen except noise.
On the other hand, the original song ([url=http] – Woman of the ghetto) is nice wide stereo! 🙂
Best,
///LeifThanks JesseG, Lpy and Leif!
[quote author=”Leif”]On the other hand, the original song "Marlena Shaw – Woman Of The Ghetto" is nice wide stereo![/quote]
It is for sure – plenty to widen in the original song – from around 1973! 🙂
Great tune – Just played it there – I have an 8 min 20 sec live version of it on "Sampled Volume 1" CD."Sampled Volumes 1 – 4" and "Discovered – A Collection Of Daft Funk Samples" (Songs Sampled By Daft Punk) – The best albums in my entire CD collection – Soul, Jazz, Disco and Funk originals, some of which you might not have known existed, that have been sampled throughout the years! 🙂
Conor
I agree, a good stereo enhancer for broadcast should do nothing to mono material.
A matrix processor like the Ariane, will sit there and do absolutely nothing to the L-R if the material is mono, just as it should.
Conor, yep — that’s exactly the album I heard it on two 😀. Awesome set.
Sgeirk, cool 🙂. I’ve never actually played with an Ariane. I have yet to make sense of the meters, especially the gating. A lot of people seems to like the sound of it as a leveller, perhaps I should play with it some day.
With Challenger, basically I wanted to make a sort of ariane-style widening (but improve upon it) without actually doing any levelling, since wideband levelling is a so much cleaner and less problem-prone way to do levelling, when you do it right.
///Leif
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