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January 24, 2009 at 3:01 pm #210AnonymousGuest
Has anyone set up Breakaway live with OTSAV that can give me an idiots guide on how to set it up? I have managed to set it up, but by using the shoutcast plug in within OTS, and selecting the output as Soundcard… I am running the main output of OTS into Breakaway, and setting the breakaway output as soundcard. Is the best way to set this up, as it seems a bit of a fudge around? Still it works and sounds great, but would I get a better sound quality if I streamed to my server directly from breakaway, rather than my output from my soundcard if that makes sense? And would this support title updates?
January 25, 2009 at 4:01 am #6374LeifKeymasterHi Richard!
I haven’t used OTSAV specifically, but in general terms, here’s one way to do it:
OTSAV outputs to Pipeline 1
OTSAV outputs currently playing title to a text fileBreakaway input: Pipeline 1
Breakaway reads song title from the same text file
Breakaway calls Edcast. (dsp_shoutcast not recommended). Please see the sticky mp3 quality thread near the top of the board index.Best,
///LeifJanuary 25, 2009 at 6:17 pm #6375AnonymousGuestGreat stuff, I am now up and running, apart from the title updates, I cant seem to find out if OTS can output the now playing to a text file..but I can live with that, will reduce the stream rippers anyway.. If anyone wants to hear what the stream sounds like… here is the link, this is using the CHR setting on Breakaway live, default settings….
http://spring.wavestreamer.com:2854/listen.pls
Rich.
January 26, 2009 at 12:36 am #6376LeifKeymasterTuned in!
Works well, and sounds good other than the slight IM distortion.
How about setting Final Drive 1 or 2dB below where you have it now? It would probably take a load off.
The final limiters don’t sound good when having to ride peaks all the time — they’re not compressors.
LOL, nice liner 🙂. "I love this station, every time i tune in, my favourite song just happens to be on, even though they don’t play the same things over and over again"… It’s a miracle, I tell you 😀.
///Leif
January 26, 2009 at 11:32 am #6377AnonymousGuestThanks for the advice and the feedback..
I have now set final drive from 0db down to -2db
Rich. 😀
January 26, 2009 at 12:58 pm #6378JesseGMemberRichard, what processing & gear is happening before Breakaway?
January 26, 2009 at 3:22 pm #6379AnonymousGuestHi, No processing before breakaway, just otsav, all processing turned off. Does it still sound distorted then?
January 26, 2009 at 7:22 pm #6380JesseGMemberYes, sounds too dense and mainly the high frequency, seems like there’s something going on there… you’re not using Ots’ EQ either?
January 26, 2009 at 7:31 pm #6381AnonymousGuestNope everything is flat.. I have the joint stereo box ticked in EDcast, should I turn that off?
January 27, 2009 at 12:44 am #6382LeifKeymasterI’m afraid I have to agree – I can’t figure it out. With the -2dB final drive change, I see on my scope now that the final limiter in Breakaway is barely being touched.. And yet, it sounds the same! It sounds really dense and overprocessed — I have no idea where it’s coming from, Breakaway wouldn’t do that, not with the settings you’re using anyway.
Could it be the source material?
///Leif
January 27, 2009 at 8:33 am #6383JesseGMember[quote author=”richardjames2005″]Nope everything is flat.. I have the joint stereo box ticked in EDcast, should I turn that off?[/quote]
I didn’t ask if it was flat, I asked if it was off. You can turn the dynamics and EQ on and off by clicking on the buttons above the areas in those windows, and there should be a little broder around those boxes that toggles on & off. So I ask again, are they actually turned off?
January 27, 2009 at 6:05 pm #6384AnonymousGuestYes , sorry not to be clear, all the EQ and Processing in Ots was off.. I think I may have realised what I was doing though, If you can take a listen to see if the problem is now resolved, before I admit too how dense I was being, then that would be much appreciated.
Rich.
January 28, 2009 at 1:24 am #6385LeifKeymasterI don’t know, I still hear IM — almost like a protection limiter being driven too hard, before it even hits Breakaway.. Could it be that every mix I’ve heard so far has been heavily pre-processed to the point of destruction?
Here’s a couple of other dance stations that use Breakaway:
http://stream.rawfm.com.au:8000/listen.pls
http://us.switch.fm:9462/listen.plsBest,
///LeifJanuary 28, 2009 at 2:59 am #6386LeifKeymasterTo illustrate what I mean, I ran a piece of music through BBP (Plutonium, 15us, all default).
I made two recordings — in one of them, I added a depressingly popular maximizer/limiter to the chain before Breakaway, and cranked up the song by 4dB.
4dB is quite a lot, but it makes for an apt demonstration — previously good sounding audio can be rendered completely unlistenable in a single, seemingly innocent step. Hell, if you’re a DJ and believe their marketing material, why shouldn’t you use it? It can only improve things, right? 🙂
"legendary combination of look-ahead brickwall peak limiting, level maximization, and ultra high resolution give you the power and extra gain you need with crystal-clear results every single time."
[attachment=1:64qhsjr9]clean.wav.mp3[/attachment:64qhsjr9]
[attachment=0:64qhsjr9]im.wav.mp3[/attachment:64qhsjr9]Compare the two — if you’re not previously familiar with IM distortion, notice how everything gets mashed together 😉. Also note how the distorted one is NO LOUDER than the clean one.
///Leif
January 28, 2009 at 3:21 am #6387celarMemberThanks Leif- you seem to have read my mind; I was reading this thread and I wanted to ask you for an example of IM distortion so I could train my ears to recognize it. Mucho gratitude as always.
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