Home Forums Breakaway Professional Products – [discontinued] Passive Aggressor: The Final Tease

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  • #946
    JesseG
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    #11416
    camclone
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    100% clean.
    !!!!
    i compared with the original non-breakaway-processed songs and ..
    i was amazed 🙂

    nice work!
    😳

    #11417
    Q106
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    Pretty nice.When will it be in BBP? How many cuts were off vinyl? Could hear clicks and pops on one cut….

    #11418
    Anonymous
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    Jesse,

    This it pretty AMAZING 😀

    Just lay back in your chair and enjoy the nice clean sound, ’cause that’s what it is! Especially the stereo-image is impressive – and more important – without bothering you with it! Very nice to listen without getting tired.

    What element did you use on your gramophone-player?

    I can’t wait to test it on-air!!

    #11419
    JesseG
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    I’m not sure how many were ripped from vinyl, and the vinyl noise on that one track is on the track and pretty loud on the track – that’s from a CD. 🙂 No stereo/width processing was done. Any perceived stereo enhancement is strictly a byproduct of the dynamics processing.

    My needles are mostly Ortofon, my favorite being a new old-stock Ortofon X3-MC that was hand picked for me by them. FANTASTIC balanced and neutral needle, without sounding stale or boring. It’s tipped with one of the best diamonds they’ve ever had, so it’s no slouch on details, while also having very low surface noise. Basically a reference dream cartridge, on the "cheap".

    #11420
    Anonymous
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    Thanks for posting that demo, Jesse.

    So am I correct in stating that this preset will process "unsmashed" audio more than "smashed" audio? If so, that’s great news. I’ll bet cut-to-cut consistency (as well as spectral consistency) will be wonderful, and is probably the preset I’ve been looking for.

    How does Breakaway know that a song is already smashed? Is this accomplished with some sort of RMS detection?

    #11421
    JesseG
    Member

    [quote author=”ASchuelke”]So am I correct in stating that this preset will process "unsmashed" audio more than "smashed" audio?[/quote]
    Not exactly. It’s more like… it’s trying not to over process ALL audio, but it’s setup so that when smashed audio is encountered, you’ll see stuff happen like the peak output level hitting -3dB, with no limiting occurring at all obviously. Cut to cut consistency? Have a listen for yourself, and feel free to skip playback position around a bit.

    [quote author=”ASchuelke”]How does Breakaway know that a song is already smashed? Is this accomplished with some sort of RMS detection?[/quote]
    It’s based heavily (almost completely) on the existing density of the original song, especially in the multiband AGC. The more dense it gets within a band, the more "strong" the processing gets there (as simple as I can put what’s really happening). The broadband AGC is actually ~twice as responsive to peakiness than the multiband, if you can imagine that.

    Leif just heard it for the first time today as well, despite having the preset for a long time, he’s been too busy to load it up, compared to the convenience of an mp3. He REALLY likes it.

    All opinions are welcomed.

    #11422
    sgeirk
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    What were the final drive settings on this demo? In our market/city…I even have to push Eruption up to about +1.7 to get to get into the loudness arena around here.

    I am a huge fan of this sound. It gives the sonic appearance of being untouched….but better. 🙂

    #11423
    JesseG
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    This is only the Breakaway Core… Strictly dynamics processing, nothing else. Consult the block diagrams topic to see what it doesn’t have that you’re used to.

    The final drive in the Breakaway GUI "skews" where the actual final drive within the Core is at. So basically this sound is with everything default/centered.

    The FM version should end up being about as loud as Reference at default GUI settings, but I don’t want to promise anything there yet. The way it sounds at default is the only thing that matters to me, not loudness. With +6dB final drive available to ~DOUBLE the average loudness, it shouldn’t be a problem for anyone if it’s not as loud as Reference. 😉

    #11424
    Guillou
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    Just a "out of topic" question…
    What’s the sax title at about 3:01"00 ?
    Thanks

    #11425
    Q106
    Member

    It’s a cut from the Kenny G CD."The Best Sax Ever";-)

    #11426
    michi95
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    Wow !

    How many bands in AGC ?
    And how many bands in MB ?
    32 ? 😆 :mrgreen:

    [ I deleted this part, stop begging please – JG ]

    #11427
    JesseG
    Member

    [quote author=”michi95″]How many bands in AGC ?
    And how many bands in MB ?[/quote]The Core I used is the same version that is already in the current versions of Breakaway!!!

    The first AGC is broadband, that one is always broadband.

    The multiband AGC/limiter is 5 bands, the number of bands is controllable by the presets (from 4 to 7 actual bands). Breakaway has 2 bass bands where most other processors have 1 band, so a 5 band Breakaway preset is comparable to most 4 band processors. (with the possibility of better controlled bass within the multiband)

    The preset has very little limiting at all, and it wouldn’t cover up for problems like sudden increases in loudness, or any "jumpiness". The sound is completely legit, with no fancy safety nets afterward.

    [quote author=”Leif”]listening to passive aggressor demo btw
    that IS nice
    this is a really nice preset
    can’t wait to hear what that will sound like with fm processing
    man you’ve got EXTREMELY solid sound in that preset, nice
    nice work man
    that’s really cool, you’ve spent much more time than i have on tweaking presets[/quote]
    Daddy is proud. 🙂

    #11428
    Audio
    Member

    Wow! What a tease!! :mrgreen:

    We love how it sounds on rock tracks: Hole, Nirvana, Pink Floyd: amazing!

    Can’t wait to see this come through in the next release! 🙂

    Audio

    #11429
    Modulator
    Member

    Wow, can’t wait for the release, this is the sound I’ve always wanted to have..

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