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September 14, 2010 at 5:22 am #946September 14, 2010 at 10:40 am #11416camcloneMember
100% clean.
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i compared with the original non-breakaway-processed songs and ..
i was amazed 🙂nice work!
😳September 14, 2010 at 1:28 pm #11417Q106MemberPretty nice.When will it be in BBP? How many cuts were off vinyl? Could hear clicks and pops on one cut….
September 14, 2010 at 2:20 pm #11418AnonymousGuestJesse,
This it pretty AMAZING 😀
Just lay back in your chair and enjoy the nice clean sound, ’cause that’s what it is! Especially the stereo-image is impressive – and more important – without bothering you with it! Very nice to listen without getting tired.
What element did you use on your gramophone-player?
I can’t wait to test it on-air!!
September 14, 2010 at 3:17 pm #11419JesseGMemberI’m not sure how many were ripped from vinyl, and the vinyl noise on that one track is on the track and pretty loud on the track – that’s from a CD. 🙂 No stereo/width processing was done. Any perceived stereo enhancement is strictly a byproduct of the dynamics processing.
My needles are mostly Ortofon, my favorite being a new old-stock Ortofon X3-MC that was hand picked for me by them. FANTASTIC balanced and neutral needle, without sounding stale or boring. It’s tipped with one of the best diamonds they’ve ever had, so it’s no slouch on details, while also having very low surface noise. Basically a reference dream cartridge, on the "cheap".
September 14, 2010 at 4:35 pm #11420AnonymousGuestThanks for posting that demo, Jesse.
So am I correct in stating that this preset will process "unsmashed" audio more than "smashed" audio? If so, that’s great news. I’ll bet cut-to-cut consistency (as well as spectral consistency) will be wonderful, and is probably the preset I’ve been looking for.
How does Breakaway know that a song is already smashed? Is this accomplished with some sort of RMS detection?
September 14, 2010 at 5:22 pm #11421JesseGMember[quote author=”ASchuelke”]So am I correct in stating that this preset will process "unsmashed" audio more than "smashed" audio?[/quote]
Not exactly. It’s more like… it’s trying not to over process ALL audio, but it’s setup so that when smashed audio is encountered, you’ll see stuff happen like the peak output level hitting -3dB, with no limiting occurring at all obviously. Cut to cut consistency? Have a listen for yourself, and feel free to skip playback position around a bit.[quote author=”ASchuelke”]How does Breakaway know that a song is already smashed? Is this accomplished with some sort of RMS detection?[/quote]
It’s based heavily (almost completely) on the existing density of the original song, especially in the multiband AGC. The more dense it gets within a band, the more "strong" the processing gets there (as simple as I can put what’s really happening). The broadband AGC is actually ~twice as responsive to peakiness than the multiband, if you can imagine that.Leif just heard it for the first time today as well, despite having the preset for a long time, he’s been too busy to load it up, compared to the convenience of an mp3. He REALLY likes it.
All opinions are welcomed.
September 14, 2010 at 6:02 pm #11422sgeirkMemberWhat were the final drive settings on this demo? In our market/city…I even have to push Eruption up to about +1.7 to get to get into the loudness arena around here.
I am a huge fan of this sound. It gives the sonic appearance of being untouched….but better. 🙂
September 14, 2010 at 6:18 pm #11423JesseGMemberThis is only the Breakaway Core… Strictly dynamics processing, nothing else. Consult the block diagrams topic to see what it doesn’t have that you’re used to.
The final drive in the Breakaway GUI "skews" where the actual final drive within the Core is at. So basically this sound is with everything default/centered.
The FM version should end up being about as loud as Reference at default GUI settings, but I don’t want to promise anything there yet. The way it sounds at default is the only thing that matters to me, not loudness. With +6dB final drive available to ~DOUBLE the average loudness, it shouldn’t be a problem for anyone if it’s not as loud as Reference. 😉
September 14, 2010 at 9:21 pm #11424GuillouMemberJust a "out of topic" question…
What’s the sax title at about 3:01"00 ?
ThanksSeptember 14, 2010 at 9:29 pm #11425Q106MemberIt’s a cut from the Kenny G CD."The Best Sax Ever";-)
September 14, 2010 at 10:20 pm #11426michi95MemberWow !
How many bands in AGC ?
And how many bands in MB ?
32 ? 😆[ I deleted this part, stop begging please – JG ]
September 15, 2010 at 2:17 am #11427JesseGMember[quote author=”michi95″]How many bands in AGC ?
And how many bands in MB ?[/quote]The Core I used is the same version that is already in the current versions of Breakaway!!!The first AGC is broadband, that one is always broadband.
The multiband AGC/limiter is 5 bands, the number of bands is controllable by the presets (from 4 to 7 actual bands). Breakaway has 2 bass bands where most other processors have 1 band, so a 5 band Breakaway preset is comparable to most 4 band processors. (with the possibility of better controlled bass within the multiband)
The preset has very little limiting at all, and it wouldn’t cover up for problems like sudden increases in loudness, or any "jumpiness". The sound is completely legit, with no fancy safety nets afterward.
[quote author=”Leif”]listening to passive aggressor demo btw
that IS nice
this is a really nice preset
can’t wait to hear what that will sound like with fm processing
man you’ve got EXTREMELY solid sound in that preset, nice
nice work man
that’s really cool, you’ve spent much more time than i have on tweaking presets[/quote]
Daddy is proud. 🙂September 15, 2010 at 11:37 am #11428AudioMemberWow! What a tease!!
We love how it sounds on rock tracks: Hole, Nirvana, Pink Floyd: amazing!
Can’t wait to see this come through in the next release! 🙂
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September 17, 2010 at 11:09 pm #11429ModulatorMemberWow, can’t wait for the release, this is the sound I’ve always wanted to have..
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