Home Forums Breakaway Professional Products – [discontinued] Breakaway murders my fader settings

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  • #794
    hank.dussen
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    Hello, an another newbee question. The output signal on both of my streams is much better with Breakaway on ‘the pipeline’ then it was before. 😉 So i’m interested in buying it. But on the other hand the fader settings of my radioplayer are getting murdered. 😯 No nice/delicate lowering in signal of the current song when an event (jingle) is started. Especially loud audible when a jingle has to start on a exact time (with time checks for instance) In stead of fading, i hear a hard cut when Breakaway is on. Does anybody know the solution for this? Thanks for answering!! 🙄

    #10596
    camclone
    Member

    ..Chaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaange the preset that you use with breakaway…
    🙂

    🙂 🙂 🙂 :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

    #10597
    hank.dussen
    Member

    Okay Clamcone; thank you. But that’s the half of the answer for me. I use the Jazz preset settings. Which parameter(s) should I adjust? I really have no idea otherwise I would have done it. I seached the Breakaway forum and the documentation for this issue but couldn’t find anything on ‘fade* or ‘cros*’ 😥

    #10598
    AuBadge
    Member

    I had the same experience when I began using Breakaway with SAM Broadcasting software. I was able to "correct" the condition by adjusting (small, incremental tweaks, not hammer-blows) Range downward until the unwanted effect was gone. Hope that helps.

    #10599
    hank.dussen
    Member

    Thank you AuBadge! 🙂 I’ll try this tweak and let you (all) know. 😕

    Well.. it sounds better but not like it used te be. So I guess i’m gonna tweak the fader settings. But AuBagde Thanks again! 😉

    #10600
    JesseG
    Member

    Another thing you need to consider is that it’s bringing up the levels of the fades, so you might have to alter where your fades happen to get a smoother transition.

    In other words, you might need to increase the threshold the fade starts and/or centers itself on (I don’t know what you’re using or the features, but any decent auto x-fader has an adjustable threshold)

    For most purposes I’m using -9dBFS for the center of my x-fades, but it really depends on what "type" of dB the level detector is using. For RMS or some weighting, you will almost for sure want something lower than that.

    Play around with it tho, see what happens. 8)

    #10601
    Leif
    Keymaster

    I’m not sure it’s the gain riding. Breakaway Pipeline disables the windows mixer volume controls by default — that could be it.

    Try enabling ‘volume control’ in the breakaway pipeline configuration tool.

    //Leif

    #10602
    JesseG
    Member

    Correct, the Breakaway Pipelines have the volume fader adjustments disabled by default. But not the channel mixer volumes, right?

    So even if an x-fader was using the device for volume adjustments, it wouldn’t be using that.

    However, I don’t think that’s what you meant Hank, now that I’m reading again. I think you’re right Leif, that Hank meant the volume control of their media player. In this case, the output levels shouldn’t be controlled by the media player. They should be controlled by the volume control within breakaway. If the volume is attenuated before Breakaway, then Breakaway is going to compensate for it, until it runs out of range.

    Have you tried using the volume control built into Breakaway, Hank?

    #10603
    Leif
    Keymaster

    It depends on how the crossfader is written. It’s not impossible that the crossfader would be using one waveout session for each player, letting the wave volume control the the mixdown. If so, Breakaway will break it, until Volume Control is enabled on Breakaway Pipeline. It’s the first thing I would try in troubleshooting this issue.

    ///Leif

    #10604
    knigget
    Member

    I interpreted the first post as ‘cos Breakaway increases the volume of everything, my crossfades sound almost non existant".

    I got around this by lowering the Power fader in Breakaway (the difference between loud and quiet).

    HTH

    #10605
    Leif
    Keymaster

    I interpreted it differently. The clue was that he said "hard cut". No amount of compression will do a hard cut — you’ll hit dithering noise first. Compression usually makes segues sound smoother.

    ///Leif

    #10606
    JesseG
    Member

    Personally…

    I think it looks like a dog. 😉

    #10607
    knigget
    Member

    lol – smells like cheese if you ask me!

    #10608
    hank.dussen
    Member

    Thank you all for your interest into this subject. Yes, my broadcast program uses the windows player indeed. So I will try the suggestion of Leif first. Ik cannot wait untill i’m home tonight. 😮 Since English is not my native language I do not understand your jokes unfortunately. 😯

    This extra ordinary program deserves also some ‘preset documentation’ on the website for all those nice preset options. May be there is, but I couldn’t find it. Anyhow thanks again for answering!

    #10609
    hank.dussen
    Member

    Leif, you were right, as always I guess. 😮 The fading works as usual again! Thanks!! By the way is there any disadvantage using this option?

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