BAL new version

[quote author=Lilrex link=topic=5092.msg18344#msg18344 date=1435039451]
Is there going to be a new version of BAL released anytime soon? After reading the forums going as far back as 2013 I am seeing a pattern of common issues and no real fixes internally.
[/quote]Nope…

Nobody, other than Leif, knows that. We still visit in the hope that there will be some updates, but, I hear that Leif is too busy on other projects to have any time to devote to it.

[quote author=Lilrex link=topic=5092.msg18366#msg18366 date=1436486221]
any reason why not? Do you not want to support the product anymore? It is being abandoned? is it now considered abandonedware?
[/quote]Those are all legitimate questions that Leif simply refuses to answer. He's probably more interested in selling this software than supporting it. He was smart enough to never launch a 1.x version, so there is no legal need to support the software.

The last update was years ago and Leif 'sold' the second generation of Breakaway we were waiting for to Omnia to market as as Omnia.9. Since then he has abandoned this forum and tells everyone who asks that there will be a new Breakaway. That has been going on for 5 years now. So yeah, this 'state-of-the-art' software is 5 years old and desperately needs an update…

[quote author=NuttySquirrel link=topic=5092.msg18372#msg18372 date=1436793347]So it seems like if Hans can continue development with Stereo Tool that Leif *should* be allowed to still develop Breakaway, unless there is something in his contract that says otherwise.[/quote]That is probably true. But we will never know.

[quote author=NuttySquirrel link=topic=5092.msg18378#msg18378 date=1436828037]
Yeah, it sure would be a welcome sight to see Leif make an appearance on here and say either "I'm continuing development with Breakaway" or "I will no longer be further developing Breakaway"[/quote] I agree.

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It has been a while since my last post but came in tonight to check and see if there has been any chatter. First a wave to Leif, JesseG and Hans, sorry I haven't been around much lately.

Now let's look at the facts for a moment. All the Breakaway products I have used recently have worked fine on clean dedicated systems from XP thru win 8. That being said, we are on the eve of windows 10. With all that's going on in the Omina camp from my view at the consultancy, and also knowing Redmond's past history with new OS's and patches and things that go crunch and poof in the night, (or day for that matter) it would be folly to release a new update on the heels of such a fine mess as is about to happen. Those of us who have been around this for a while and I've got 40+ years in it, knows that chasing anything that comes from MS for the next 6 weeks will be a wasted effort with lots of bent noses and burnt bottomsides.  😮

The wise man waits for the dust to settle and the bugs to be splattered on someone else's windshield and releases' an all new killer upgrade, say around October to November after Gabe and the gang up north get's done going south, as every hardware maker on the planet has been sitting in wait to see how the smoke clears and where it blows when it does.

Patience is a virtue. When it's time it will be worth the wait.  😛

Til then join the debuggers, whiners and complainers on the forums at Redmond and push for some pro audio interfaces and better codecs (win 10 does not play well with things like asio and other such toys yet as of build 10240 – let them know we need it) in this mess they are calling their final operating system. From my days working with Bob and the gang, when Leif makes a move, everyone will know it and only when it's time.

On that note I wave and watch.

Actually yes I am, nice to meet you. But seriously, as I mentioned in my post;

And considering I sell and service specialized systems like this every day I see it often.

Theres no sense beating minuscule bits of code into dust on software thats working as expected and there has been little change at the audio end in the field to require it. Yes there have been a lot of hardware changes but not so much with the operating systems. Virtually all the Breakaway products will run as expected on the devices and software they are supposed to that is currently available. See the list of requirements before installing and do your research.

This is why forums exist.

Most end-user problems occur because of software conflicts, poor hardware or barely adequate hardware or people not knowing why or taking the time to do the proper homework.

Most of us inside the industry have known of windows 10 for at least a year or longer. I Have been working with the betas on this since before they knew they were going to call it windows 10.

There are a lot of very large and heavy players in this arena waiting to see what happens next and nobody's holding their breath here. It's a fact that every other OS that MS ever wrote were miserable failures. By past performance this one should be good, but at this point nobody is actually jumping up and down screaming wow yet because there has been little change at the audio endpoint to require it. Most of it is cosmetic or cpu and storage targeted and aimed at smarter faster ways of doing things…..they say.

I repeat, there has been little change at the audio end of things to require sweeping updates. Take a look at some of the other players here like Orban/CRL, Mackie, Atomix, and so on. Are you seeing anything significant coming from those camps? I don't know about you but I haven't seen any lightning out of a clear blue sky in the audio field in a while. Now as for the rest of the hardware, like processors, ram, graphics and storage systems yes. We have the power for more multitasking with these changes but not at the audio or networking end of the PC side of things, in fact it's gotten a bit stale and boring.

If anything with those changes things should be better than when they were designed and most of them are. You have to remember that DSP's require a bit of time to do what they do and speed is not necessarily going to improve anything here. Remember with these products, psychoacoustics is everything and thats the perceived sound not the actual sound as measured. There has been very little change here.

Logic says wait for the changes AND wait to see how it's going to run on the millions of computers and configurations that use it, and how the public is going to react to it before you spend weeks trying to adapt to something that may fail before anyone knows the results. MS has also been known to release large sweeping changes themselves 4 to 6 months in when they see what isn't working.

Some software does not need to be updated at the speed of security updates. When theres nothing left to do with something that's working fine the smart thing is to leave it alone.

We live in a time encouraged by gamers that think software should require updates every time someone farts. This is not always the case. There's no sense in doing anything until you see substantial results. Right now the best thing to do is wait and that's what the smart ones are doing.